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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 571 ✭✭✭Seattle


    I think younger people should be up in arms about this more than they are. I can see a big panic set in within the next decade and it's the younger people that are going to have to make sacrifices to pay for it. There will be an accelerated move towards green energy and the pace of that change is going to be painful for a lot of people.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    We just had an election, younger people didn’t bother to show up for the most part



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,550 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    4 kilometres takes about for a fit person, roughly 40-45 mins to walk.

    Would you want to walk 45 minutes home after work ? Having done a days work and having walked 45 minutes to get to work ? In our climate ?

    Would you want to walk 45 minutes having been out shopping and buying stuff which you also need to make the effort to convey home ? In our climate ?

    Bus routes have not and are not just being renamed. Here they are being cancelled and new routes added which instead of having terminus’s here as are in the case of our two, instead are brought in starting in other densely populated suburbs , coming through the area,…logic suggests they will be thoroughly packed and then going all over the kip..

    So more reasons to use cars…

    Always wonder why those anti car/private transport are so absolutely silent about our lack of public transport options… not much noise from that cohort about the metro being again downgraded, kicked down the line and no whisper about any serious LUAS expansion ie. new lines !? Just anti car / private transport.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,549 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    You did notice the 2-4km bit, and the walk or cycle bit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,550 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    I did Andrew, I’m also again cognisant of our climate…… quite a narrow and selective response from you but the same applies, I see you are still deathly silent on our lack of public transport options and our failure by governments to produce a viable metro, to produce any more LUAS lines or suburban rail for the capital city, environs and its residents.

    Metro.. god knows when, I think the date has been confirmed to just be…no confirmed date…or ‘sometime’

    Luas.. according to the NTA document the new phase will be open all going well, in about 2050 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

    The ordinary citizens can only do so much. If our efforts are not being complimented and supported by politicians, 🤷🏻… not going to worry… example… what do people want me to do… heat the place with a green source of energy…ok, but I travel everywhere by car, because simply there is no viable alternative to reach my regular destinations, with stuff I need to take… so you won’t see me on a bike or walking… it’s not practical.



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 7,546 Mod ✭✭✭✭cdeb


    Christ almighty - people trying to argue a distance of two miles can't be walked or cycled. 🙄

    I do it every day before and after work. Takes ten minutes. Good to add a bit of exercise into the day too. The "climate" argument is bollox



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Ok, So is exempting FTBs from Stamp duty not a subsidy to FTBs?

    Is exempting Electric cars from VRT not a subsidy for electric cars?

    Is exempting pension contributions from Income tax not a subsidy for pensions?

    The cost of doing business in any economy is paying the tax required to support the infrastructure of that economy.

    Tax breaks are subsidies because someone else has to pay that tax instead

    If I can invest 1 million euros in an Oil project, and that is tax exempt, but my investment in food production would face taxes on profits, everything else being equal, I'll make more money on the Oil investment….

    Tax subsidies are supposed to be used to promote socially desirable economic activity. Subsidising destructive activities that only enrich the already ludicrously wealthy are perverse incentives. And Giving money to the poor to buy from the rich at inflated prices, is an indirect subsidy to the rich.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    In the netherlands, most fit healthy people would think nothing of cycling 2-4km

    Are you saying people in the netherlands are better than Irish people?

    Is there some genetic difference?

    The Dutch didn't always have such good cycling infrastructure. They had to rip up roads to make space for cycling and pedestrian access, and having lived there, their cities are way way nicer places to be than any of the Irish towns or cities.

    And before you say 'but it's flat there' I also lived in northern sweden, where it's dark 18 hours a day in winter, snowy and hilly, and they still had way better cycling infrastructure than we have here, and more people cycling than we have here.

    If the young healthy people cycled more, there would be less congestion on the roads, and they would stay young and healthier for longer than if they resorted to driving everywhere because there is no safe infrastructure to support active travel.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,550 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    in Amsterdam they have…

    Trams : 14 lines

    Metro : 5 lines

    They also rip up roads for the majority of those.

    Plus…

    suburban rail / canal boats / water taxis…

    We have in Dublin as a comparative example being a capital city, 2 tram lines and some suburban rail plagued by delays, inefficiencies and overcrowding. That’s it. 🤪

    They have cycling infrastructure in Amsterdam, go Amsterdam. But when they have effective, efficient public transport they have the space on their big streets for that infrastructure.

    when I lived in Paris, I didn’t own a car. If I went back tomorrow I wouldn’t buy a car, because I wouldn’t need it. Plus I love zooming around that city on the metro and RER. Speed, reliability / efficiency and connectivity, it was unreal. Same on some level for the majority of EU capitals I’ve visited.

    They have what their citizens need. It’s not rocket science…unless you are sitting in Dáil Éireann.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,549 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    You're deathly silent on the treatment of the Uyghur people by the Chinese authorities. Should I conclude that you support the Chinese authorities, or that you just haven't gotten round to forming a view.

    I'm deathly silent on lots of things, mainly things I know SFA about. The fact that your main critique now is down to the things I'm deathly silent about speaks volumes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    How about people who just don't want to cycle.

    The cycling infrastructure obsessives seem to think that cycling is the first alternative to going in a car.Truth is it's probably 3rd choice alternative to driving for most people after Public Transport (whether rail or bus) or walking.

    Maybe if Dublin had proper public transport first it might help things more than improving cycling infrastructure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,704 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    We should do both.

    And there is plenty of evidence that people do want to cycle, but its very intimidating cycling in Dublin with the traffic congestion and terrible infrastructure

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,549 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Already covered

    "Yes, think of how much easier the journeys of the rest will be when those taking short journeys get out of their cars."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,915 ✭✭✭Nermal


    If VAT is cut from 23% to 20%, are you thereafter perpetually receiving a 3% 'subsidy'?

    If the top rate of PAYE is cut, are you being 'subsidised' by being allowed to keep more of your income?

    Using the word in this way implies that all property naturally belongs to the State. It's indicative of the alignment between Communism and Green ideology. Seeing the national statistical body use it in this way shows that the rot runs deep.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 54 ✭✭These Are Facts


    Every year, we get close to limitless almost free energy (cold nuclear fusion)

    Nuclear fusion breakthrough: China's 'artificial sun' reactor sets a new world record by generating a steady loop of plasma (at 100million°C) for 1,066 seconds - taking the world closer towards limitless clean energy.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14312163/Nuclear-fusion-Chinas-artificial-sun-reactor.html



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    This is the same China where a billion people went from cycling to driving and is now the world’s largest carmaker

    Same China where they build roads literally everywhere?

    Funny that how they are progressing while we are regressing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 839 ✭✭✭poop emoji


    Nuclear fusion has the word nuclear in it

    Hence the green movement would instantly object to it (don’t tell the jokers that nuclear fusion powers the sun)

    Even if the technology can solve climate change



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,549 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko




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