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Beef price tracker 2

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭Robson99


    Also have that extra bit of size and bone to carry weight. Always found Charolais out of a Sim / Lim Cross cow make great cattle to feed into big weight… often would see heifers killing over 450kg carcass with that cross at 30 months



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,379 ✭✭✭jfh


    Had nearly all simxfr cows here, sometimes too much milk at the start, did find a problem if not finishing myself as a lot brought white heads, which wasn't a good seller here in Clare



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,220 ✭✭✭Who2


    the sim breed a great feeding type animal but you need to cross with a lim to bring a bit more style if your selling weanlings. The cows are good mothers but they are very soft feet wise and can sometimes throw a bellyish type calf. They are a breed that was going well as a maternal type bull and I’ve a few cows here with curaheen Earp in them that are great mothers but I got caught with curaheen apostle breeding that looked like super animals but weren’t to calve anything of any size. I know here any of the calves of those cows were brutal calvers too and I hung the last one up last year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    the feet are the biggest issue with the sims. I crossed my limo cows with a sim bull for a couple of years and have some great replacements. Just need the hoof man to answer his phone a bit more now which is not a simple job 😩😩😩



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,312 ✭✭✭Hard Knocks


    Same everywhere with weanlings, as 2yo colour isn’t as important



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭morphy87


    talking to a man yesterday evening, he has Angus cattle ready to sell, all suckler bred,overage and very heavy, a mixture of bullocks and heifers, he was bid 6.30 flat for the lot, he turned it down and looked for 6.50, the agent told him don’t sell the cattle till he gets back to me,4 different agents trying to buy the cattle off him



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭nearlybreak


    age gone out the window and moves always was a way to bring down the price they’ll make 6.50 all day long and if he sent them to a mart a lot more if they are the real ones



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,594 ✭✭✭morphy87


    These are the real ones , bred them all himself, he reckons he will get it before the end of the week



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭kk.man


    If he doesn't get it this week he'll definitely get it next week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Cavanjack


    At this rate we’ll be at €7 come March.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 104 ✭✭nearlybreak


    if they are real ones they could make up to 3.70 a kg in the mart and give it two or three weeks more maybe more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Goodman2


    What are quotes looking like for this week, any flat prices on offer. I have 20 x (20-24)month old bullocks to go mix of continentals and dairy crosses.



  • Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    550kg aa heifers in bandon today 2k! Dawn meats wer runner up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭grass10


    A couple of hundred ahead of factory price but I am sure we will have factory fans on here telling us that seller would have done better in the factory



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭Anto_Meath


    There was a time were on a load of cattle overall you would better if fit sending them to the factory. But they needed to tick all boxes, movements, age, grades ect.

    At the minute the worst mart price you get would beat the factory price & if you have something that doesn't tick all the boxes then the mart price would hammer any factory price.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,881 ✭✭✭White Clover


    Not since Covid has it been better to sell Angus heifers direct to factory. Mart all day long.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,427 ✭✭✭tanko




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,668 ✭✭✭Robson99


    In times of demand and stock shortage it's always better in the mart....its easier on their pride to have some lad jumping around the ring like a pleb getting a tenner a beast and the dinner than it is to give extra at the factory gate....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 599 ✭✭✭Butcher Boy




  • Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Im 99% sure for a local butcher.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,357 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    As well when numbers start to come on stream it allows them along with withdrawing flat pricing to rapidly drop prices without officially dropping the base price much.

    I suspect that may be there tactic this time.e as well. It will depend on the volume for the contracts they have

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 102 ✭✭Austinbrick


    To sell or not to sell .

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,118 ✭✭✭kk.man




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,601 ✭✭✭Dunedin


    well I probably wouldn’t sell the gate anyways as it looks like it’s doing a good job there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭DBK1


    I don’t agree Anto, yes at €2,000 for 550kg they’re well ahead of factory price but even by todays abnormal prices that’s still the exception.

    €6.40 flat price is freely available for Angus countrywide now. Depending on the mart that’s somewhere between €3.35-€3.45 per kg live weight. I’ve just looked down through Bandon mart where they were sold today. Them heifers made €3.64, a great price. Looking at around the 550kg and upwards Angus that were sold, and leaving out that 1 exceptional lot, there were 17 more cattle sold in 9 lots from around that weight up today. The prices ranged from €2.88 to €3.41. 5 of the 17 cattle made their factory price, the other 12 made below it and over €100 a head below factory price for some of the lots.

    If it was the one factory man that bought them all, even with paying well over the odds for 1 lot he still has a good days work done getting cheap stock for the factory.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,726 ✭✭✭50HX


    Is this increase in factory price translating to end product price?

    I assume it is as I doubt processer or retailer is taking a reduced %.

    If so the sure price has to level off v soon as it will become uneconomical to purchase



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,486 ✭✭✭epfff


    I've said it here before the consumer felt this coming 2 years ago.

    The retailer/processor is only getting around to giving the farmer his share now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10 Goodman2


    That must be the equivalent of €7 a kilo, some price.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭grass10


    6.40 flat for aa heifers off dairy cows is approx 3.22 to 3.32 mart equivalent suckler bred Angus would have far better ko



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,558 ✭✭✭DBK1


    They’d be the killouts you’d expect from P grade friesian’s. Dairy bred Angus will killout 52 to 54% of mart weight. Ask any man buying finished Angus in the mart and he’ll confirm that for you. I keep telling you that you have to account for losses from yard weight to mart weight.

    I dropped a few hex heifers to a lorry man’s yard from a neighbours yard this morning as a favour because the yard is too tight for the lorry. The man had them weighed last Saturday week and they averaged 405kgs in his yard. 9 days later they averaged 387 on the mart scales. Allowing them to have put on 6kgs in the 9 days since that’s a 5.8% weight loss. Even if you say they never gained an ounce in the last 9 days it’s still a 4.5% loss between yard and mart. I loaded them at 7.30, they were sold at 11.30.

    But even at your €3.22 to €3.32, do you agree that the 12 Angus, weighing from 543kg up to 657kg that sold today in Bandon for prices ranging from €2.88 to €3.27 per kilo were all sold at less than their factory value?



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