Beef price tracker 2

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123046997#Comment_123046997

I agree entirely, however on average from early Feb, cattle put in early October will be on ration 120 days, cattle in mid October 100+ days and cattle in early November 90+:days. Feed efficiency drops, lads need sheds for calves ( just like the lad in the video). Prices do not climb forever. Where will it stop/max in your opinion. A base of 6/kg, 6 5,....8/ kg. Processors will gain a certain amount of control from early Feb on IMO.

morphy87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123049842#Comment_123049842

And how long will this control last do you think before it swings back the other way

Fine Day

Surely if decent prices were to remain somehow the norm will we see a bit of a swing back to sucker farming and maybe calf to beef men might change back as many were suckler farming. You can't beat a decent suckler animal to give a decent carcass weight.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123050121#Comment_123050121

Processors usually struggle with control of beef prices during December and January and again fro.m late April to late June. It mainly due to supply. Yes they struggled this autumn but good weather allowed farmers to control supply. I do not think prices will collapse just the continued upward trajectory will stagnate, flat pricing will become less and less. The general base being quoted locally is 5.6 for steers, 5.65 for heifers/ kg. That could climb 20+ cent but I cannot see it exceeding 6/kg, I hope I am wrong and prices hit above it and keep climbing but everything stops somewhere.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123050131#Comment_123050131

I doubt it. AA and HE are easily fattened and processors cannot get enough of them. Remember the dairy bred cattle ate climbing in price as well. Take those AA tgat the farmer did not sell 1850 for an animal that is probably 22 months old and say 580 fresh weight. You would stockthem at 2 to a suckler unit where the calf is sold as a weanling. Nitrates are your main limiting factor. Even at 1.5 to a suckler unit where the suckler calf is sold as a weanling your turnover is over 2.5k compared to about 12-1400 average for a suckler weaning in general at the top end of the market.

They might stabilise for a while but I cannot see a serious upward trajectory

WoozieWu

how much to replace those aa or he cattle at the moment

Siamsa Sessions

Sold a few stores in Dungarvan this morning - small no. of cattle and prices going well. All of these are out of FR cows. I bought them as calves.

AA bullocks, 470kg, €1,420 (€3.02/kg)

FR bullock, 475kg, €1,200 (€2.52/kg)

FR heifer, 455kg, €1,250 (€2.74/kg) - not in calf

They were on 2nd-cut silage and getting 2kg of a beef nut since just before Christmas. They had to go as I needed the shed space for the FR heifers that'll start calving soon. Happy with the price but they've been here nearly two years so you'd want every cent of it.

Bass Reeves

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123050402#Comment_123050402

For a lad at calf to beef AA heifer calves are about 130 for lighter calves to 200-220 for 70-80kg AA heifer calves.

WoozieWu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123051471#Comment_123051471

cost of a store not a baby calf please

top end for suckler weanlings is pushing €6/kg for special heifers and the moon for really special ones

the average is closer to €4/kg for anything coloured

are we are comparing dairy beef calves to beef vs suckler to beef? needs to be an apples to apples comparison

cull value is through the roof, they are making big money through mart rings now i saw one that went through dowra 945kg made €3070

Siamsa Sessions

Suckler versus dairy-beef is kinda an academic debate at the moment when price is good and everyone is making a few bob.

The question is who can weather the storm when price drops.

Cavanjack

I see where €6.40 has been paid for continental bullocks and according to Agriland prices are up 15cent in some cases. No sign of it slowing down yet. When to sell cattle now is the problem.

morphy87

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123053858#Comment_123053858

Well then, the man that told me that he got 6.30 was telling the truth, they were very anxious he said

Anto_Meath

If your cattle are fit and ready to go sell them at the best price you can get. As the saying goes its better to be sorry for selling than sorry for not.

January was always regarded as a hard month to judge cattle prices on as chills are empty after Christmas, weather can be unpredictable things like Chinese new year's and the timing of various Muslim feasts can have a big influence on prices.

leoch

5.80 for heifers on grid

Cavanjack

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123054857#Comment_123054857

The thing with bulls is they can be fed on longer than steers or heifers and still put on weight.
We Usually send a load of 20 at a time. Every 10cent increase is worth €900 on a load.
Also every 10cent decrease has the opposite effect.

nearlybreak

6:20 flat for continentals all ages 6:40 flat for Aa and Hex bullocks

grass10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123055650#Comment_123055650

Great money what grade would the continentals and aa / hd be and are the aa and HD suckler or dairy bred

nearlybreak

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123056267#Comment_123056267

continentals mainly Rs few Os and Us but very well fleshed and Aa and Hex mainly dairy breeding but decent ones with nice flesh

Fine Day

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123056357#Comment_123056357

What factory is offering €6.40 flat for Angus. The most I can get is €6.10 flat.

grass10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123056357#Comment_123056357

Serious deal you must have big numbers to go well done

lstmd

Offered €6.20 for a load of AA bullocks this evening and €6.30 for AA heifers.

KAMG

A relation of mine send a load of AA bullocks & heifers Monday. Took the grid price on offer. The Average price paid was €6.31 for the heifers and €6.26 for the bullocks. Home bred, non - dairy cattle.

50HX

Thoughts here

QA AAX heifer suckler bred

650kg r grade, prob on the wrong side of fat score, 29mnths old

Factory or mart?

grass10

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123058163#Comment_123058163

Go to a mart where the factory will be made pay the real price if you only have small numbers the factory will have you on the grid and they know how to use it against lads

Cavanjack

When you say the wrong side of fat score you mean not fat or over fat?
You could feed on and let them go over 30 months if not fat enough. If the price rises another 10cent it’s more or less the same thing anyway. You could still sell in a mart in a month or two.

50HX

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123059136#Comment_123059136

She is slightly over fat I think.

Since I got out of sucklers this is a learning curve again for me

575 with numbers is our base locally in the abp.

kk.man

Some factories in the UK are now paying the same price for non red tractor cattle.

If there's one thing this scarcity for cattle has exposed is the excuses for cuts to cattle in the past who fall outside the norm is an excuse to dog the farmer. But the greatest exposure is how crooked the grid is.

Sheep breeder

Just seen a Facebook post from a chap in France I know posted of a young Charolais store cow 900 kgs €3870 @4.30 per kg, would carry a good bit more weight, just shows beef is getting pricey

893bet

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123059853#Comment_123059853

But it means nothing as there are lads here who are so desperate to get an extra 5cent that they won’t even say what factory they got it in publicly incase it cost them. Instead they say shite like “bargain hard lads”.

Seperatelt farmers are very weak.

Tileman

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123060483#Comment_123060483

sur if you shop around you will get the same deal. Do you want him to load up the cattle and transport them for you too.
the poster has got a good deal and said what is available. Up to each farmer to do their own negotiation after that .