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General Premier League Thread 2024-25

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,153 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,814 ✭✭✭✭sligeach




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,621 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Next 5 very winnable for United. Fulham 10th, Palace 1pt ahead of United and then Spurs, Everton and Ipswich who are all below them in the table

    Unfortunately, they're going to be back on track pretty soon you'd reckon, with some very handy European and FA Cup games in between



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,814 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    Man City make it 2-0.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Manc-Red_


    United as the last two seasons have shown us are only a cup team but the reality of that is they they’ll win much more that 90% of the others.

    Arsenal are typical of what I’ve just said there. All mouth and hatred for an old club that won it all but still are winning crumbs that they can’t. And won’t.

    Better Born Lucky Than Rich.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    City will finish top 3,maybe even top 2



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,875 ✭✭✭doc_17


    A really poor game to show at 430 on Super Sunday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,814 ✭✭✭✭sligeach


    That's enough of that I think. 3-0 Man City. No point watching it if it's not going to be competitive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,715 ✭✭✭theoneeyedman


    What makes you think United will beat Fulham, or even Palace?

    Fulham have looked a better side any time I've seen them in the EPL this season, organized and pull together. Haven't seen Palace much, but they are on a good run.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,621 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    I said they're winnable not that they'll beat them

    I'm saying that the upcoming fixtures are set up well to get back on track



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,703 ✭✭✭✭noodler


    City certainly building up a head of steam



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,246 ✭✭✭Doc07


    As they are only 6 behind Arsenal and Forrest now and assuming Halland and Foden etc stay in form for rest of the season , I’d say it’s nearly a short odd bet they will be second. As Liverpool fan I’m very glad we have the 12 point gap with a game in hand



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭Ottoman_1000


    City are still too flaky for me. I can't see them staying consistent enough to get back to 2nd place by the end of the year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    Worst Team in the history of Man Utd,according to Amorim.

    We are the worst team maybe in the history of Manchester United. I know you want headlines, but I am saying that because we have to acknowledge that and to change that."

    Roy Hodgson used to be at this type of stuff with the media when he was manager of Liverpool. The job was too big for him and his losing mentality.

    https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2025/0119/1491722-amorim-this-man-united-could-be-worst-in-history/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,621 ✭✭✭✭8-10


    Players now going to run through walls for him after saying that. Right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    I give him 18 months. A losing mentality won't win much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,272 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    That's the end of their easy run of fixtures though. Now have Chelsea, Arsenal, Newcastle, Liverpool, Spurs and Forest upcoming. OK maybe generous to put Spurs on there but they do have a good record against City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    I think that’s too harsh on Amorim. He doesn’t have a losing mentality, he just doesnt have the players.

    He is able to get them organised enough and to work hard enough to get results against Liverpool and Arsenal, but he hasnt been able to get them to play the way he wants on the front foot. That’s largely because the players arent good enough, or perhaps he hasnt enough good players who also fit his system.

    In particular, i dont think he can be properly judged until he has players he wants at wing back, 9 and 10.

    I dont personally like his system, but thats probably because i dont understand it. Like i’ve no idea how he’d fit Salah into it if he had him. Also, while Amad is a super player i think you’d get even more out of him in a ‘normal’ 4-3-3. Garnacho too. I’m confused as to why when Amad is playing wing back he doesnt play on the left to provide width and to create chances by getting balls in from the left into the two 10s and the 9. (Obviously when Amad plays 10 he is better on the right so he can cut inside).

    But Amorim clearly has confidence he can get his system to work.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,512 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    18 points from those and they’ll be champions again! Fookers. But hopefully no more than 10.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,479 ✭✭✭mosstin




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,470 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    If he doesn’t have the players then he needs to find a system that works with what he has until such time as he does have the players. Ange gets slaughtered for his “who we are” schtick and the fact he can and will only play one way. I don’t see why Amorim should be treated differently.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,456 ✭✭✭Dr Robert


    He looks like a manager under serious pressure.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,052 ✭✭✭Krazy gang


    City getting few players back in form. Foden with 6 goals in 6 games and de bruyne playing better. Mcatee looks another talent. Surely they won't let him go like Palmer and Rodgers. Should release gundogan and Bernardo in the summer, maybe kdb if he wants to go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,154 ✭✭✭Caustic


    Ange has been in his job two years not two months for a start, also a set formation doesn't mean they only play one way that is nonsense, Ange gets called out on that not because of a formation because he goes all from start to finish never trying to get control of a game.

    Amorim makes change within the formation, sometimes he plays more attacking players or more defensive players in certain positions, he has gone between mid blocks and high pressing, he has made subs and changes in games to go more attacking or more defensive.

    What you are saying is absolute nonsense and I'd say you haven't seen many united games under amorim



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,875 ✭✭✭doc_17


    If City go on a 12 game winning run, and they can, they’ll be back in it.
    Utd were outplayed by Southampton for long periods, but showed heart to get the win. Didn’t see the game today, but saw Onana’s mistake. He needs to go. Poor keeper. Letting DDG go for free and paying £50m to replace him badly is another of Ten Hag’s mistakes that Amorim has to sort.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,468 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    I find this amorim fella absolutely bizarre. Not even trying to win games in a style that suits the squad just so he can show I will do it my way, I'd be worried as a united fan if my manager was so one dimensional. When did it become ok to lose games?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,279 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Not worried at all, the players are being found out and to revert to suit the players now would be player power winning

    The man know now or will know by the end of the season who needs to be gone.

    Most UTD fans are well behind RA, he's honest with no bs.

    Its a squad full of miss match players from 4 different managers that are over paid and think they're better than they are.

    We are crying out for a lb/lwb and a striker. We have no threat on that left side. Which is gas because for years we used to say the same about the right side. Can't remember when we had a cohesive attack on both sides of the pitch. Always lacked one or the other for the longest time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,468 ✭✭✭✭rob316


    As I said call me old fashioned but a manager should get the best out of the squad, create a winning mentality, not perform worse than the last one. I pretty much saw Klopp do that from minute one.

    Why would ineos bring in a manger who doesn't suit the squad at all?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,868 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    What if Amorim's philosophy doesn't work in the PL? He has the confidence of a manager with a few PL titles under his belt



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,470 ✭✭✭✭fullstop


    No need to get your knickers in a twist, it’s far from nonsense. I’ve seen plenty of Man U games under him, thanks. They seem to get largely dominated in most games, nicked 2 late goals to win against city and were good against Arsenal and Liverpool when the players actually put in a shift. Those games seem to have papered over some cracks.

    The fact that he can’t seem to get them motivated for games against perceived lesser teams is also not a great endorsement of him as a manager.



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