Hamas strike on Israel - mod warning in OP updated 19/10/23

Well Israel have managed to slaughter 47,000 Palestinians many of them women and children and they will probably slaughter another 40 or so before the cease fire kicks in tomorrow. If ever there was a doubt then the Israelis have shown who the real tyrants are, it will never be forgotten.

Any mention in the treaty of how the IDF will get their kicks after the peace? They seem to have moved a lot of their troops into the WB so will we see more land grabs there?

Right, you dont think a ceasefire is a good thing. Its clear you want this war to continue. All your negative posts over the last week make this clear.

But what I find puzzeling is that you wanted a ceasefire for months. Now that its here, you dont want one.
It seems that you enjoy posting about war and death.

Mod Edit: Warned for uncivil posting

The last thing Hamas cheerleaders wanted was peace.

This x10000

We have had months and months of posters asking for a ceasefire.
Now we are hours away from it being enacted, and is it good enough?
No.

It seems their real love is posting about how 'evil' Israel is, and if Palestinians dying meant they had more ammo, then so be it. A very odd way of thinking.

I for one is very glad there is now a ceasefire.

Hostages get to go home, Hamas dont get a say in the running of Gaza anymore, the IDF disengages from Gaza, and innocent people no longer have to die in the crossfire…

These are all GOOD things. But many folks here, are deeply upset at this peace. Maybe they are the warmongers?

Though you are clearly defending Ben- Gvir's terrorist invocations. So yes - you are defending him and have posted such defence.

I missed this nonsense.
Please quote me on where I am defending Gvir's 'terrorist invocations'. Calling out a mistruth about him being a convicted terrorist is not a defence on what he says or does. That is just lowball stuff.

Radio 1 now. Irish woman working in field hospital in Gaza.

I clearly stated a ceasefire was a good thing in my posts - so clearly you are just baiting.

The issue that was being debated that I don't agree with is that Israel will stop the killing on the implementation of the ceasefire.

And isn't it evident that all the pro Israelis, gushing over the pager bombs for example, have only wanted the destruction of Gaza since day one? Heck, they've even justified the raping of Palestinian prisoners.

If anyone has enjoyed posting about war and death has been the pro Israelis and of course the IDF tik tok war criminal stars.

Do feel free to continue to bait and troll and misrepresent my posts - I'll defend my position with clear evidence.

Complete whataboutery! Israe have the capacity and are slaughtering civilians while you're more concerned about what Hamas might do IF they had the capacity.

Some Jews want Israel to stop slaughtering women and children

If anyone has enjoyed posting about war and death has been the pro Israelis

Fooking ridiculous, not the first time around..

And obviously in your view, which you are entitled to, its ok to slaughter civilians, men women and children, as if they were fish in a barrel! A horrible nation.

That post does strike me as an anti-Semitic conspiracy theory though.

All the same, you can be a supporter of Israel and Zionism and still be an anti-semite at heart, or subconsciously.

American extreme Evangelicals are one bizarre example, but even here you can see there's quite a few folk who's support for Israel is firmly due to it's politics being perceived as being anti-muslim and anti-left.. and we all know what side of the mob these people would have stood on 100 years ago..

Not ridiculous at all - just read back through the thread - it's very evident.

Hmm. Let's see. Do you condemn the anal rape of Palestinian prisoners and do you condemn Israel's refusal to allow the UN to independently investigate those claims?

Do you condemn the slaughter of innocent innocent civilians in the pager attack?

Your previous posts have refused to condemn any of the killing in Gaza and the war crimes and genocide of Israel. Maybe you're having a change of heart?

I'll not hold my breath if you don't mind.

I don't support/defend anyone raping anyone. As for the pager attack, my understanding is that these attacks were as surgical as possible given the circumstances, and that collateral damage - while not zero - was limited.

As for the so-called "genocide," these are the things that have happened in all-out wars throughout history. For example, nobody in the US or the free part of Europe was complaining about the number of Japanese/German civilians killed or claiming that WWII should have ended with a peaceful settlement with the Nazis because of the destruction in Germany was too great.

That would have been beyond silly. Yet the Jews are being asked to do exactly that - seek peace and co-existence with groups that are implacably committed to their utter annihilation.

As for the so-called genocide, I think it's quite telling that the country that accused them (South Africa) is either a passive or active supporter of genocide, as long as it's the right sort of genocide. The government of that country is trying to get closer to both Putin and Xi of China, who between them are currently conducting at least 4 ongoing genocides (Ukrainians, Tibetans, Uighurs and Inner Mongolians). Their main opposition party, the EFF, goes further and explicitly supports all of this and much more.

So you'll have to forgive me if I don't take an accusation of "genocide" by a CRINK or their allies (e.g. South Africa) very seriously.