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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,283 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    So I have no issue with RTÉ making TV or Radio. I think that is where they should invest their OUR money.

    fyp @RoTelly

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    The problem with RTÉ is that it will believe its own PR.

    https://about.rte.ie/2025/01/10/record-breaking-2024-for-rte/

    RTÉ Player has record breaking 142 million streams, up 42% year-on-year

    This is true but 142m stream is nothing to write home about. 390K stream a day, or per hour 16K, this is RTÉ ONE +1 audience levels at best.

    RTÉ delivers 42 of the Top 50 of 2024’s most-watched shows on TV, with Sport, RTÉ News, and Eurovision among Top 20 programmes

    Sport is makes up 24 of the top shows, all of which were on RTÉ2, remember Dee Frobes and Co want to drop sport from RTÉ2 and move it over to RTÉ ONE. And what of that sport Euros and Olypmic Games a big year for RTÉ2, a channel devoid of anything other than sport for people to watch, which audience levels without sport get between 4 and 6 %.

    Also these sports are what RTÉ in their annual report will say are "special events" and if we didn't have to produce them we would have made a profit.

    Steve Carson, Director of Video, RTÉ, said: “RTÉ constantly strives to provide audiences with a unique and compelling mix of content that they deserve from their public service media organisation. We are delighted to see audiences engaging with RTÉ content in such high numbers on television and on RTÉ Player across a wide range of genres, from trusted News & Current Affairs, Irish Drama, Entertainment and Documentaries, as well as national events and major sporting moments.

    We invested in both the functionality and availability of RTÉ Player and it has paid off with an enhanced user experience and expanded catalogue clearly delivering for audiences. RTÉ is committed to continuing to deliver relevant, engaging content for Irish audiences that sets us apart from global media companies and streamers. We will continue to provide that for Irish audiences in collaboration with the independent sector in 2025 and beyond.”

    First Director of Video sounds like Direct to Video and is a title of a by gone age, Director of Visual / Director of Visual Content might be a better title.

    Well done I suppose it will help to get you out of the mess you created from 2013 to 2023.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    And sure if you break everything down by episode rather than by total streams

    <!--td {border: 1px solid #cccccc;}br {mso-data-placement:same-cell;}-->

    Rank

    Title/Series

    Streams

    average

    episodes

    notes

    1

    UEFA Euro 2024

    8,785,820

    172,271

    51

    matches

    2

    Paris Olympics 2024

    7,213,176

    150,275

    48

    3 programmes over 16 days

    3

    Yellowstone

    4,508,395

    136,618

    33

    4

    Normal People

    1,060,274

    88,356

    12

    5

    Kin

    1,370,113

    85,632

    16

    6

    Love/Hate

    2,274,211

    81,222

    28

    7

    The Young Offenders

    1,582,634

    79,132

    20

    8

    The Dry

    1,105,152

    69,072

    16

    9

    The Sunday Game Live

    1,826,267

    58,912

    31

    31 matches a year, but not all on Sunday

    10

    The Late Late Show

    1,426,661

    49,195

    29

    I think this is PK's agreement per year

    11

    EastEnders

    8,503,264

    40,881

    208

    4 eps per week

    12

    Fair City

    6,013,281

    30,680

    196

    3 eps per week up to august 4 after

    13

    Home and Away

    6,914,555

    30,063

    230

    5 eps for 45weeks

    14

    The Tommy Tiernan Show

    1,090,786

    19,832

    55

    as per RTÉ player form season 4

    15

    Room To Improve

    1,127,714

    12,530

    90

    16

    Bluey

    1,494,052

    9,702

    154

    not sure how many on RTÉ player

    17

    Neighbours

    1,812,006

    8,712

    208

    4 eps per week

    18

    RTÉ News: Nine O’Clock

    3,164,677

    8,670

    365

    7 day week

    19

    RTÉ News: Six One

    3,019,642

    8,273

    365

    7 day week

    20

    Shortland Street

    1,602,467

    6,163

    260

    5 eps per week


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Just to note that I forgot RTÉ had added the latest series of the Young Offenders to the player just before Christmas so this would bring the average down to 60,870, putting it in 8th position.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Your breakdown looks like the Matrix, on a phone.

    Does RTE give a definition of what they call a 'Stream'?

    A total of hours actually watched and unique users would be better. A stream could be counted every time a user restarts watching, or fast forwards during a program.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    There is one viewer out there that watches 6,163 ads in rotation before they get to watch Shortland Street.


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    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,170 ✭✭✭Expunge


    If RTE do the "right thing" on bogus self employment, it would by driven to bankruptcy, according to the current DG…………

    Full restitution for bogus self-employed workers would 'bankrupt RTÉ', says Bakhurst

    "The honest thing is if RTÉ was to go back and say ‘ok, if you have been an employee, we’ll give you all those rights and we’ll make it up for you now’, we would be bankrupt overnight because there were so many people treated like that."

    "When asked if Mr Bakhurst’s statements suggest that RTÉ considers that the need to remain solvent outweighs the legal rights of employees seeking restitution, the spokesperson said “we do not accept the premise contained” in the query."

    Unbelievable. Surely there comes a point when a few bits of the company could/should be saved, run in a different way by different people and the rest shut down or sold. Stop throwing good money after bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    At this point RTÉ should be split up and public service broadcasting saved.

    The broadcaster has not be run well across the board, this is just not what we all see and hear everyday via their output, but also in relation to general governance of the company, maintenance of the Montrose and other sites run by RTÉ, along with their employment practices.

    The current DG has also said to upgrade RTÉ's buildings would cost 300m, and pointed to leaking roofs and so on.

    Also for those contractors in RTÉ how did you get to be contractors for 20+ years even 5+ years is a strange situation, there had to be some incentive not to be a member of staff.

    When asked if Mr Bakhurst’s statements suggest that RTÉ considers that the need to remain solvent outweighs the legal rights of employees seeking restitution, the spokesperson said “we do not accept the premise contained” in the query.

    Explain why you don't accept the premise of the query.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,170 ✭✭✭Expunge


    By the way, the above article did not give due credit to the Echo Chamber podcast who got the audio of the "Town Hall" meeting, from where Kevin Backhurst was quoted (very bad form, by the way).

    Tony Groves and Martin McMahon are the people responsible.

    McMahon especially has been saying for over a year that the RTE is in reality bankrupt. He spends a great deal of his time representing RTE people in the Labour Relations process, trying to get restitution for them. For no money, as I understand it. He maintains that it is a matter for the criminal courts.

    Have a listen to the episode, if you get a chance…..

    1408. ‘Bankrupt Overnight’ – Kevin Bakhurst admits that RTE is insolvent – Tortoise Shack



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    He is admitting RTE's management wronged the staff. Weakening RTE stance if/when court causes are brought against them. Going bankrupt is not a valid defense in court.

    I have seen self employed people reaching retirement age. Earning good money but never taking out a pension or other investments. They suddenly reach an age were there friends have started to retire, go to their accountants and are told is a bit late now to build up a decent pension. You had no interest in a pension when talked about it 20, 15, 10, 5 years ago. Tears and mental breakdown involved. But in RTE's cause workers have a get out of jail card. Sue them for Bogus Self Employment.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,063 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Joe Duffy occasionally cries he doesn't get sick pay 😂😂



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Thanks. First we need to stop complement people, the questioner starts by saying that you have performed well at the Oireachtas committees. This is similar to when people say oh RTÉ is good for News and Current Affairs … but.

    Second. I'd argue that Beforbes is general angry when he is at those committee meetings, he is dismissive of everything IMO.

    Beforbes is shocked at this mistreatment of contractors ! its as if he wasn't Deputy Director General of RTÉ in the past.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    In deed. But I would think Joe is tight with money and has a pension. He has second home in Wexford, so could sell a property to help fund retirement. It is hard to know what they have. There are lots of 'self employed' in RTE on far less money. G. Ryan was on twice Joe's money, not taking inflation into account. Yet he died penniless, after snorting his money up his nose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,170 ✭✭✭Expunge


    The audio from the Town Hall Meeting is well worth a listen if just to hear how patronising Emer Cusack (Head of HR) is.

    Being questioned by one of the minions is not to her liking.

    Also, apparently Kevin Backhurst's body language is very defensive in the video.

    This could get murkier and murkier for this crowd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    I think people are massively being fooled by Kevin Beforbes, his body language is always defensive, his Oireachtas committee appearances haven't been all that good. He's there to server up the same old same old, his mission is to keep everything as is. I imagine many of the contractors will take being a staff member soon and RTÉ will avoid contractors in the future, hence why they are pushing for FC and TLLS to move outside of the organization, let the indos deal with contractors.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,297 ✭✭✭crusd


    In my experience, heads of HR that dont sound patronising at just good at hiding their condescension of the ordinary worker. You need to remember, the Job of HR is to protect the organisation form its employees, as much as they want to tell you otherwise



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,343 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    Why are this lot not 'cleaned out' before they cost the taxpayer any more money.

    The management of the place seems to dwell in the realm of 'Faulty Towers' and the only answer seems to be is to stiff

    JQTaxpayer with the bill to clean the gaff up?

    And yet the same lot surface again with the same issues and the same huge wedges managed by the same coterie of

    chancers who seem to have fingers in every pie.

    Time to drain the swamp.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,283 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    If Bakhurst really does think that compliance with the law is optional, he needs to resign or be fired pronto.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 853 ✭✭✭Baba Yaga


    said it months ago,fraud squad shouldve been brought in when tubsidy and dees and noels wee arrangement came to light,whole thing should be shut down,leave a couple of it lads to keep the servers etc running,grab the first person passing off the street to read the news a couple of times a day,keep it closed until the whole thing is looked through by the fraud squad…


    "They gave me an impossible task,one which they said I wouldnt return from...."

    "You are him…the one they call the "Baba Yaga"…

    yo! donnie vonshitzinpants,vlad putin,benji netanyahu..you sirs are the skidmarks on the jocks of humanity!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Getting info from the Dept and from CnaM is like pulling teeth. They do not want to be contacted by the public.

    The Media division of the department are refusing to take phone calls and have issue a request to that effect to the porters at reception.

    Meanwhile the CnaM have ditched their info@ email in preference for the new users support email address.

    Emailed info@ on 10/12 with

    RTÉ has proposed to close a number of digital radio stations in 2024. 

    I believe the RTÉ have issued this proposal under the broadcasting act 2009, section 103. 

    I believe that the Department has sent the CnaM the proposal. Do you know when you will be able to make a decision on this proposal? 

    No reply, I left it until after Christmas to which I replied on 14/1

    Did you receive my email dated 10/12/2024. 

    I think that is plenty of time for them to reply, to which they forwarded it on to their user support team with

    We received the below complaint via reception. 
    Would you please be able to respond? We can assist with wording as required. 

    So firstly its not a complaint, secondly you sending it on to someone you clearly don't believe will be able to answer the question. Meaning you are going to have to write the answer.

    User Supports answer

    Thank you for contacting Coimisiún na Meán.  

    The Minister for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media is required to consult with Coimisiún na Meán regarding the sectoral impact and the public value of the proposal submitted by RTÉ to close four of its Digital Radio Services. Our role is to act in an advisory capacity to the Department for Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media. However, the final decision as to whether to permit the closure will rest with the Minister. 

    We are currently in the process of carrying out our assessment and will provide a summary report to the Department in March 2025.

    I suppose saying "when will will make a decision" was my fault as I did mean "when would they advise the Minister".

    So the digital radio stations that were due to be closed in 2024 the CnaM will advise the minister in March of their view which will be to close the stations!

    Civil servants are further entrenching themselves, with a view never to answer a phone call and never to answer an email, rather get a call centre to do it for you. Sadly the call centre added CnaM's forwarded email back to me in their reply.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,420 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Was there anything in the vague programme for government with respect to RTE or will they kick that loyal but wasteful can down the road ??

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,977 ✭✭✭ForestFire


    I think they have a common understanding….

    RTE:- You don't put us in any of your programs (GOV) and we won't put you (TDs) in any of our programs!!!

    Post edited by ForestFire on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Same as the old guy

    RTÉ’s Director of Audio, Patricia Monahan, said: “For decades, RTÉ 2FM has been a launchpad for some of the most recognisable names in Irish broadcasting. This legacy continues on both our weekday and weekend schedules, as we continue to nurture the next generation of presenting talent and bring new voices to the national airwaves,  I have no doubt that they will add their unique flavour to 2FM’s iconic sound and look forward to working with them and the entire team to engage and inspire listeners as we embark on a new and exciting era for 2FM. With this diversity of original Irish voices, and our renewed commitment to Irish music, 2FM will truly be the Sound of the Nation.”

    Speaking ahead of the tournament, Declan McBennett, Group Head of Sport, RTÉ said: 

    “As we embark on an exciting year for rugby, the anticipation surrounding the 2025 Six Nations Championship is palpable. RTÉ is proud to continue its commitment to sports fans nationwide by delivering free-to-air, multi-platform coverage of this prestigious tournament, in collaboration with Virgin Media Television. With expert analysis across all RTÉ platforms, rugby fans can enjoy every thrilling moment throughout the Championship, without missing a beat of the action.”


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,283 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Well that's a load of old bollocks as all of the big names on 2FM (back when it still had big names) got started on the pirates, they hardly brought on anyone new for 20+ years and those they have brought in since are nothing to write home about

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭Field east


    it’s not free to anything - let alone Free -To - Air. I pay you the annual TV licence. And you will be getting from me andthe other income tax/VAT , PRSI , Property tax and other taxes €60 m over the next 5 years. Free to air how are you . Do you take us for fools still?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,255 ✭✭✭RoTelly


    Why are you paying the TV Licence? I stopped. Not advocating that you stop, wouldn't do that here, but many have stopped haven't seen a TV Licence inspector in my life.


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    Just one more thing .... when did they return that car

    Yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,074 ✭✭✭skimpydoo


    Doireann Garrihy is back on 2FM, her podcast must not be doing so well. Bakhurst said he would no longer be dealing with NK, yet here RTE is doing so. They have some neck over there in Montrose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,493 ✭✭✭✭Boggles




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,343 ✭✭✭✭Brendan Bendar


    here comes the Montrose mafia………. leather elbow brigade



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    Bakhurst made that utterance regarding NK in a World where

    1 democracy was actually functioning

    2 there was no enormous effort by RTE along with the lines of Easons to rehab NK "Talent"



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