Tesla Model Y

I know a good few people that were looking at a Y and were put off by the fact the new one was coming out and decided to hold tight so I'd imagine that would also have to be factored in. That and the fact they had to sell privately to buy one was a big reason due to awful trade in prices.

when you saw the highland, you’d definitely have assumed the Y would be a similar change and waited. I don’t think it is though.

1,200 people is a lot of committed orders for a medium suv Tesla.

Your point about people trying to sell their current Tesla to flip into a new one is a bigger problem than we think, and will be more apparent as each year goes on. They’re nearly impossible to shift privately at anything other than a fire sale price, likewise finding a garage to take one as a trade-in, or else try to get more on the derisory Tesla trade-in when they call you with a delivery date and you can’t take it.

None of the options for getting out of a Tesla are attractive

Was offered 33k for a 231 RWD MY with nearly 50K on it against a new Cupra Tavascan. No reluctance on the dealer whatsoever. Didn't bite, mainly because the MY is a superior product to the Tavascan/ID4/5/Enyaq.

Graham Walker is shouting from the rooftops for '23 and '24 MYs because he can't keep up with private demand. Vector motors likewise. There are probably others I wouldn't see as regularly.

I only replied to your message so there was some context to what I was referring to.

Mid life refreshes never ever increase sales and only serve to slow the annual drop.

I suppose really all I’m saying is that the Y dropped in sales 45% year on year, even with significant price drops, far outstripping the general drop in the EV market, and also ignoring the fact that it was only it’s 2nd year of sales.

I can’t see a renaissance in 2025, with this facelift (simply because it’s never happened in the past), but the truth will be in the numbers come Dec 31.

Sorry, can't advise on price but, if you get a 22 MY LR, you'll get the stiffer suspension. Might not be everyone's cup of tea, especially those in the back and if you're on 20" wheels. But you will get the USS, although maybe they been disabled now by recent Tesla updates and it's vision for all? There might also not be a parcel shelf over the boot which makes for a bit more noise from there.

Nealy all 23s have the softer suspension and parcel shelf.

USS are the Ultra Sonic Parking Sensors. Tesla removed them from 2023 on to save 60c per car. Tesla now use the cameras only to estimate the parking distance. In the beginning this was incredibly sh1t. Following a later update it became less sh1t but still not as good as USS. For the rear, it's not an issue since there's a camera that can be used to see the gap. But there isn't any front bumper camera so there's still a bit of guesswork there.

Stiff or 'comfort' suspension will be a personal preference. If you mainly drive by yourself and you're a petrol head then I think you'd prefer stiffer. I believe we have a stiffer suspension even though we have a very early 23 LR. There's no body roll and I love driving it on my own on the N roads. It's so well planted for a 2 ton car. Obviously not comparable to a 330e, but you'll still have fun. But once I've passengers in the back, I have to be so much more mindful to avoid potholes or G-forces in general or they'll be going for the sick bags.

Although I tried hard, I was never able to get a definite answer on this. Musk tweeted at the end of 22 that from 23 all MYs would have a softer suspension, but that was as 'official' an announcement as I have been able to find. I test drove the UK reg MY LR in Sandyford in Jan which was a 2022, had no parcel shelf and the stiffer suspension. Our 23 LR feels identical although it does have a parcel shelf. Our VIN is from around Jan 10th and there were some buyers in the UK of similar age cars also suspicious of their suspension. Some saying that Shanghai would have used up the old stiffer suspension rather than just throwing it out.

I got a LR Model Y in June 2023. It was part of the big batch of ones that came in around then, I'd been waiting months for it.

This at the time was said to contain the new comfort suspension, I don't think anything up to then had.

When I got the car I thought I might still have the old suspension as it was very stiff, but I took pics of the parts and they were indeed the new ones.

So at a guess I think most 231 onwards ones should be comfort suspension, and probably all 221/222 are non comfort.

As I say the ride even with comfort suspension/19 inch wheels was very firm (grand on motorways, noticeably crap on bad roads) so I would imagine prior to that would be worse.