LUAS Network + Future Expansion

question, why at the red cow for examples, cant they put a roof over the luas stops and bus stops, so people could could avoid getting soaked and have more seating?

I assumed as much, just dont put in seating that case, merely a roof…

Most people will drive anyway. And with almost 2.5 million car owners in fhe state and rising, that number will only increase.

To be fair, the new bus interchange there will be getting a canopy at least (Yes, the current "new" interchange is a temporary one that was put in place ahead of a full rebuild)

TII has released a new version of their Active Projects List, and while it is mostly nothing new, it did note that they expect to sign the contract for the new Luas fleet this year! I was hoping we would see a contract signed or order placed this year, but I think this is the first we have seen a more solid date given by TII? I am guessing it will be more Alstom Citadis units, but I am still excited to see what the future of the fleet will look like.

https://www.tii.ie/en/public-transport/projects-and-improvements/p-t-active-projects-list/

Another copy and paste job. The benefits of Luas Bray include "Facilitate Poolbeg SDZ and Dublin Port Masterplan".

To add to that, up to €1 billion for a car park in Carrickmines is scandalous.

Of course it’s a mistake. This is clearly a cut-and-paste error, where this page was simply copied from the previous one and edited with the new information, but the cost field wasn’t updated. There are several other such errors in the document.

I expect to see the “Irish” Daily Mail run a story about this “billion euro carpark scandal” in a week or so…

I live outside of Ireland, but visit very often, and every time I come into Dublin city centre it strikes me how relatively small the work would be to develop a rail station at Whitworth Place in Drumcondra, on the Midland Line.

It wouldn't seem to be difficult: there is comfortably space (both width and length) on the canal side, for a platform, and on the other side it should also be doable to build a platform, with perhaps just some removal and replanting of trees and some earthwork. From my cursory glance each time on the aircoach, it looks like it might be possible to build such a station. (I haven't, unfortunately, been able to spend much time in that area of Dublin in recent years).

I post this because there is a proposal to build a LUAS to Balgriffin in the years to 2040, via Drumconndra.

It seems to me that development of such a station at Drumcondra, on the Midland Line, would open up lots of possibilities, both for the Midland Line passengers and for the residents of that area.

I make no secret that, for a number of reasons, I think the metrolink should be built through Drumcondra, but failing that there is every reason to do what can be done to ensure that the Balgriffin LUAS and Dublin's rail services have the best connectivity.

Yes, that's right. Barely 170 metres from the existing Drumcondra station.

It's not easy to see the full extent of the proposed Balgriffin LUAS, but it does appear to be planned to go via the City and Drumcondra, not Jones' Road. A station at Whitworth place would thus give passengers on that LUAS line access to all the local rail servicess, and vice versa.

Whitworth Place itself is about 100 metres long. There is then, it appears, a garage, and then some scrubland between the back gardens on Drumcondra Road and the railway track.

Creating a railway station there would not seem to present much of a problem.

On the canal side there is clearly enough room, or could be. (I know nothing about the ownership of the land between the rail line and the canal at that location). It certainly looks like the normally required 3 metres, and if not it could be made to be. Given the very low throughput of boats in that section of the Royal Canal - if indeed there is any throughput - objections from Waterways Ireland can surely be easily countered.

On the Whitworth Place side, you would effectively relocate the wall to the other side of the trees, create a platform and probably replant the trees a bit lower down. It might be necessary to have a slightly narrower platform at the sea end, just as there is in, say, Sandymount, where the platform is in parts just 1 metre (well below the statutory norm), but compulsory purchase of anything would assuredly not seem inevitable in such a plan.

I can imagine there might be temporary road closures during construction. But, long term, Whitworth Place could go on as the lovely street that it currently is.

Drumcondra station is 150m away and will be upgraded to full electrified Dart. Did you know that?....

Inbound, the Royal Canal line is limited to the Docklands only, versus Connolly and Docklands on the other line. Outbound, the next station will be Glasnevin Junction, where multiple connections can be made. There would be zero benefit in having a duplicate station at Whitworth Place.

Any new station should be closer to Ballybough and North Strand, which is halfway between the stations.

If someone wants to go to Drumcondra, then it's very simple..... get on a Drumcondra bound train at Connolly, Spencer Dock or Glasnevin Junction.

A significant number of passengers will only be starting their Dart journey from Connolly/GCD, Spencer Dock, or switching from a Metro at Glasnevin Junction. So it shouldn't be difficult to just get on the correct train line.