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The Stand With Eamon Dunphy

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Maybe declining ad revenues were a factor in not getting certain guests but I think Liam didn't want to do any more football analysis anywhere and John was visibly in decline. It's sad to think we may never hear John and Eamon publicly discussing football again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,543 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    Yeah, Brady was very clear on the fact that he was retiring from all media duties, across the board. And I don't think John's fee would be significant, it's surely more likely a case of age and declining health sadly.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 12,469 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    Haven't heard much of Giles in the last year or two, but posters here have been calling him senile for at least a decade.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,956 ✭✭✭Morrison J


    Shame about this. Really enjoyed dipping in when there was a topic of interest being covered. Any podcast around these days that is a decent replacement that people would recommend?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Lecter8319


    Although repetitive sometimes and unable to remember some specific details or players about matches, I found he was still able to go & Eamon helped him along the way.

    In the earlier years, it was special, he covered a lot of different issues & had a strong football orientated side to his podcast along with a wide variety of guests.

    In recent years, it became a bit too much about American politics & their foreign affairs, european issues & politics too etc.

    It almost became too political at the expense of everything else.

    I stopped paying a sub because of this

    Interesting article I came across on the journal.ie, both him and his wife Jane were earning a salary each of approx 73k per year on the show, the show had post tax profits of 109k in 2023.

    Thats not big money by any means for Eamon, he was earning I'd say four times that in his hey day & he's been putting out a serious amount of work over the last few months on this podcast.

    Probably said, **** it, ill make alot more money & have alot more free time in finishing my book. I dont blame him



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    John was operating just fine up to a year or 2 ago but since then he was really struggling to recall players names and making a lot of basic mistakes. The fact that Eamon had to help him out more and more meant the writing was on the wall. I'm a huge fan of him but I think it was better to let him go with his reputation largely intact. He was still fine recalling the old days with Leeds but not so good on modern players and tactics.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,019 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    The News Agents is one I listen to a lot. And I enjoy the US version of The Rest is Politics a lot.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,543 ✭✭✭JoeA3


    The "Rest is…." podcasts are good, I'd recommend. There's a few of them, covering various topics of interest. For football, I really enjoy "The rest is football" with Gary Lineker.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭Tork


    During one of Eamon's last episodes with Niall Stanage, he mentioned how much in demand Niall now is. He hinted that Niall might not always be available to him. Perhaps Trump's re-election and the possibility of losing his best contributor helped Eamon make a decision. Trump isn't in the White House yet but the chaos and manic news cycles have come back with a vengeance. The rest of the world seems to be something of a dumpster fire at the moment too. If Eamon doesn't have the time or head space to present a current affairs podcast, walking away now is a good idea.

    Eamon isn't getting any younger, and he has emphysema. That is a progressive condition, and we can only hope that he doesn't deteriorate too much. There were times last year when he didn't sound great.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 926 ✭✭✭amlinopta


    Still on Off The Ball most Thursdays, struggles with the current stuff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,006 ✭✭✭✭Utopia Parkway


    The Stand was pretty repetitive with the guests it had on but I still enjoyed dipping in and out occasionally. I'll miss Eamo fawning and grovelling over his contributors.

    What's the best similar Irish pod to it? A bit of current affairs from home and abroad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 738 ✭✭✭weadick


    Really disappointed to hear this. Been listening to Eamon talk about sport and politics for most of my life. Really liked his contributors on The Stand like Stanage, Ferriter. I hope his health is okay and look forward to his book, his last one was a great read.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭fire_man


    His podcasts were only about 25mins long and had he approx 2 a week.73k each not bad money for this work.As above if anyone has any recommendations with similar topics please let me know.



  • Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 10,814 Mod ✭✭✭✭humberklog


    Are you saying he got €73k per episode or am I reading your post wrong?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,102 ✭✭✭fire_man


    No someone else mentioned above himself and his partner made 73k each from Podcast in one year.Not bad for few hours a week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Is that 73k each after all expenses - including paying the engineers and editors that he mentioned? A fair bit of research would be needed ahead of interviews as well. It's not just showing up for 2x25min pods a week.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭franglan


    In fairness it's a bit more than just making human like sounds for 25 mins a few hours a week. Really disappointed to hear the news tbh. The Stand has been a regular part of my almost daily routine. It was both very serious and lighthearted if not laugh out loud at times (with Stanage, Sheehan and we'll always have John Walters!). Big loss not having a Stanage update each week now. Yes this week's update was very similar to last week's but I actually had no issues with that tbh. An end of an era for a broadcast icon. Thanks baby!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 616 ✭✭✭Cetyl Palmitate


    The article says 'aggregate pay for both directors' amounted to 73k. Hardly life changing sums.

    In any case, I doubt he was in it for the money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭mikehammer..


    The bel tel does have a few interesting ones

    The guy on the rest is politics US is a bit of a dose ( I think trump sacked him after a few days so he's not baised 😁)but its ok

    Shattered lives is good if u can get around the nordie accent again

    Nicola tallent and Niall Donald are very good at times . Donald has good knowledge of the legal system etc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,766 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    Even as someone who disagrees with almost all of his political stances, I tuned in just to get the other perspective from a guy who has never lost the common touch.

    Will miss it. Don't think there's anything out there or any personality who can replace Eamon.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,128 ✭✭✭steve_r


    Yeah likewise. I always felt that Stanage was particular good at cutting through the noise and not pretending that certain issues were bigger than what they were. Sheehan was the same on Irish politics, and likewise Naoimi O'Leary and Suzanne Lynch were very good on the EU. I liked hearing Diarmuid Ferriter as well to give a historical context.

    I've tried the News Agents pod and it's nearly too slick for me - theres a sense that "these are the buzz topics, and we're going to make them into the most important topics" so I feel it misses that sense of being honest with the listener about what really matters.

    2024 was a big year of elections with a lot happening and it wouldn't have been easy to cover all of that. On the flip side, the challenge with 2025 will be to provide similar coverage without the elections, and maybe he wasn't as motivated by it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 161 ✭✭Lecter8319


    There were more podcasts than that each week if I remember correctly and I'd imagine alot of preparation & research went into most of them. 75k a year for a man of his experience, profile, knowledge is not great money & this was 2023, who knows what he was paid last year but I'd imagine it dipped further & revenues were further declining.

    Its a no brainer if he can make more money by writing a book, take his time, relax, write a column, get generously rewarded for any appearances he might make.

    He had Ivan Yeats on a few weeks ago & he seems to be making a killing from guest appearances & hosting conferences etc nowadays. Id say Eamon noticed this and wondered why he wasnt doing something similar. Have the freedom to work when he feels like it & get paid a lot more than hosting a podcast weekly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,019 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Eamon is 79 years of age.

    He's been making decent money for a man of that age for a number of years.

    I'd feel very sure he's stepping back is just because of the ongoing marching of time that everyone experiences.

    George Hook, Vincent Browne are similar ages and have gone before him, Pat Kenny is a few years younger and thankfully still going. Ivan is 15 years younger so the thoughts of travel and hotel rooms probably doesnt put him off.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭Peter Dragon


    Sad to hear this, I genuinely hope his health is ok as that was my first concern. I’m not a soccer person so never listened to those but his coverage of the US and UK elections (not to forget our own) was first class, delving deeper into both sides and their strengths and weaknesses in a manner lacking in most other outlets on this island. As others have mentioned, Niall Stanage in particular has been a standout contributor, and has been recognised as such by many other outlets.

    His coverage of the Ryan Tubridy/Noel Kelly/RTÉ scandal was also excellent.

    Our media landscape needs more people like Dunphy, not less. He will be missed.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭mikehammer..


    Ill miss Stanage and Eamonn anyhow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Clare in Exile


    Hopefully it's not health related and is just a case of Eamon taking time off to focus on "The Rocky Road" part two. I enjoyed the podcasts - Stanage, Peter Oborne and Chris Johns were particular highlights.

    Dunphy has been seriously underrated as a writer, he has produced some great tomes. "Only a Game?" is superb, a must read of the realities of professional sport. His most recent offering, "The Rocky Road" was also excellent.

    I enjoyed his book on U2, and I feel his collaboration with Roy Keane was superior to Roddy Doyle's.

    Hopefully we'll hear from him again soon...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,354 ✭✭✭ShagNastii


    I'll echo comments about The Stand. Be sad to see it go.

    I thoroughly enjoy any form of Dunphy's journalism. He does get eye rolls for the "Eamon Dunphy" moments but I have no doubt he is hugely respected across all facets of the media and further afield.

    I genuinely think he is one the most intelligent commentators Ireland has had in the last 50 years. He has also shown great empathy and integrity on countless occasions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 129 ✭✭mikehammer..


    Eamonn has that common touch

    He can make a connection with people



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,522 ✭✭✭Westernview


    Eamon had a great sense of humour as well and was often very self deprecating. He enjoyed telling the story of driving out of Dublin Airport after coming back from the 1990 world cup. Someone approached his car and asked him for his autograph. He said he put on his "Gay Byrne smile" and signed his name. When he handed back the pen and paper the person said "now f××k off". I think he enjoyed being the rogue amongst the fawning media of the time.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92 ✭✭Clare in Exile


    I think as others have said, integrity and decency can both be attributed to Dunphy. During the Tubridy pay scandal in RTE Eamon mentioned on his podcast how a number of years ago he went to the bosses in RTE and told them that he felt he was being overpaid. He voluntarily took a hefty paycut of €30,000. He contrasted this with the "grubby little deal" that Tubridy engaged in.

    Hopefully he'll pen at least one more book.

    The adage of time waiting for no man is so bloody true...



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