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Getting evicted, baby due in 5 weeks

  • 05-01-2025 07:57PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭


    Partner is heavily pregnant, due in 5 weeks. We were living separately previous to moving into this house. Herself with her elderly parents, and me in a tiny cold city flat on the 5th floor. Neither suitable for raising a child as we already have 2 other dependents, there's simply not enough room in her elderly parents house or mine. And we have the problem of 2 trying to house the 2 other dependants (secondary school age)

    We moved into a house in September 4 months ago, and the landlord met us as said that he built this house as a place for his children when the time comes (don't know their ages). We are paying premium for this house as it's quite comfortable and modern.

    There have been no problems, we have been good tenants. Contract does not specify a timeframe on the lease just a move in date although the daft ad was advertised as "minimum 1 year". 2 days ago we got a phone call from the letting agency saying that the LL is intending to sell and he wants us gone. Because we've been there for less than 6 moths the letting agency says the minimum notice period is 4 weeks.

    We are mortgage approved and have been searching but unable to find a house for the past 6 months we've been searching or cannot afford it. I'm a paramedic and she is a nurse yet our mortgage is below most 3-4 bed houses on the private market. We earn too much for council housing and apparently we earn too much for affordable housing scheme too? Either way we don't have time for that now.

    What are our rights? Can we bid on this house if the LL is not pulling the wool over our eyes and is using the "selling the house" as an excuse? As he said the house if for this children so if theyre getting it then it might not be going on the market as such just transferring ownership?

    We're really stuck and it's causing massive stress for my partner who is in no fit state to move, and even if they give us more time she'll be recovering from c-section for weeks and a newborn will need a more stable environment we can't just up sticks with a baby a couple weeks old.

    What are our rights? We never intended on staying here long term but this was totally unexpected.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Paramedic and Nurse ... can you move away from Dublin ... and to cheaper houses ... you should be able to work for any of the regional hospitals ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭sudocremegg


    We dont live in Dublin we live rural. Both our salaries are at the max increments and we have a nice deposit.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,530 ✭✭✭SuperBowserWorld


    Oh I read city flat 5th floor and jumped to assumptions. Maybe somewhere else in Ireland that's cheaper ? Definitely contact the minister for health and cc the minister of housing and ask why, that you are essential workers, working and paying tax and you can't afford a home in Ireland. Anyway, you have good essential skills so don't give up and best of luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,533 ✭✭✭Deub


    Did you talk to the landlord to ask to stay longer or to buy the house?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 322 ✭✭watchclocker


    Soubds like you haven't been given an official and legal termination notice yet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 244 ✭✭sudocremegg


    Not yet, but we will. Just looking to absorb as much information as possible before so I know my hand. I'm hoping it will be very amicable.

    Not yet no. I expect it will be in the coming days. But no point in ignoring the inevitable.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,741 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    …definitely contact the minister for health and cc the minister of housing and ask why, that you are essential workers, working and paying tax and you can't afford a home in Ireland. 

    what?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭JVince


    If LL is selling and you are looking to buy, it might be an opportunity.

    Landlord's estate agent might also know of property coming up for sale too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,479 ✭✭✭Former Former Former


    @sudocremegg

    The minimum notice period is 90 days, so call the letting agent out on that one. That gives you at least three months to sort something, it’s not much but it might at least tide you over the birth.

    Source:

    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/housing/renting-a-home/tenants-rights-and-responsibilities/if-your-landlord-wants-you-to-leave/#8cf07e



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,727 ✭✭✭893bet


    or ignore the invalid notice entirely; no point letting them know their mistake.

    Buy as much time as they can.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    As you’ve only been in the property less than six months, the landlord doesn’t need to provide any reason for giving you notice so whether he’s selling or leaving it empty doesn’t matter. You are entitled to 90 days written notice in the required format unless you signed a lease for 1 year, that’s a different situation. What does your lease say?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    If the landlord is selling, is there any chance he would sell to you? Off market, saves in estate agents fees etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 733 ✭✭✭sue97


    Have a look at the tenant home purchase scheme.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Nobody is ever made homeless instantly. There are always plenty of hints months if not years in advance. Maybe not this time but in the future. You need to look at what is going to happen three years down the line. Rents are going to keep rising. You are both skilled and professionals. Whos is looking for professionals? Australia is calling. Other countries are calling too. This delay tactic is just kicking the can down the road. You need a more definite solution.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Anyone who is looking to an elected official, charity or state agency to fix their problem is in serious trouble. You need to know you are heading for homelessness in the future, maybe not today or tomorrow or in a year but eventually. You need to take preemptive action before you get into trouble again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    yup. I used to volunteer with Simon Community before homelessness was a real thing in Ireland at the height of the Celtic tiger. I have two friends who were homeless (one probably will be again within two years), I had a sister who was homeless. They got warned that it was coming and they ignored it and wait for it to happen rather than be proactive. I like to think I have experience in the field.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 308 ✭✭danfrancisco83


    Sorry for your situation, but it sounds like you'll have to adjust your search criteria to find a house. For example, it sounds like you might be looking for a 3 bed house for 300k, but can't find anything. You might have to search further out than you'd like. It's not ideal, I was in a similar situation myself, but worked out well in the end. Best of luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    Probably wouldn’t change the landlord’s mind, many will only let for less than six months now. I know one owner who lets in 5 month cycles.

    Maybe the house is not being sold - the landlord said he built the house for his children.

    Sounds like the letting agent is unclear about notice periods and allowed reasons for notice.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,191 ✭✭✭Emblematic


    Out of interest, what should these friends have done to avoid homelessness and what does the one friend need to do to avoid it in the next two years?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 985 ✭✭✭mykrodot


    OP and partner have 2 secondary school kids and elderly parents, plus a baby on the way very soon. Hardly the right fit for a move to Australia!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭JVince


    I suspect it was AI generated. Certainly made no sense 😄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,914 ✭✭✭JVince


    If you have a copy of the daft advert, that would be in your favour for minimum year

    You absolutely have 90 days notice and this starts from the issuance of the first valid notice.

    I suspect the agent is mixing up landlord notice and tenant notice periods.

    A tenant only needs to give 28 days notice if ending the tenancy in first 6 months, but landlord must give 90 days.

    All goes in your favour for trying to buy it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    OP if you intend buying a house, it’s a good idea to contact a local mortgage broker asap, and get loan advice and information about grants. It takes time to buy any property. The 90 day notice period gives some breathing space to look for somewhere to rent in the interim, but if the landlord knows you are in the process of buying, they might agree to a longer notice period.
    Awful situation to be facing for anyone and especially with a new baby on the way. Best of luck.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Perfect fit for Australia, You are a professional family that wants to move. Australia welcomes families like this. The alternative is to sit on the hands and wait for the Government to sort it out.

    The kids are resilient and will adapt. Australia is an English speaking country. Its not like they are relocating to South America or SE Asia.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    One of two things are happening. The land lord thinks it is a peak market price and wants to cashout while the going is good. Or he wants to change tenants and jack up the rent. My understanding of the contract is that it secures both the tenancy and the rent for the year for both parties (barring antisocial behaviour, non payment etc). I think once they move out and the house is done up it will be back on the market after a month for rent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 168 ✭✭trindade


    OP, you better call RTB. You will have 90 days to leave, but if they are selling it - they are obligated to sell it to YOU if you wanna buy and if you can buy.

    Also, depending the price of the property, you might be able to use FIRST HOME SCHEME.
    The only scenario that you can purchase a second hand house is when you are renting it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 979 ✭✭✭SupaCat95


    Good Question. They are too high an income to get social housing and probably not high enough to buy. That puts them in a terrible dilemma and at the mercy of the private market. They are not in a great position.

    IIf they are already hard strapped and buy and then interest rates rise, if they go into deliquency over 3 months the house is gone. That senario could easily happen. Plus there will be issues in the future with cheaper older houses.

    Another country that would welcome them is UAE. Both of them would get a housing allowance and tax free. This would allow them to buy in Ireland, rent it out and pay for it 4 times faster. (Rent from Irish property, saved rent from salary 1&2, housing allowance from employer, plus tax free salaries).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,130 ✭✭✭mrslancaster


    The owner does not need a ‘reason of selling’ to give notice to a tenant who is there less than six months. No reason required so the owner is not under any obligation to offer to sell the property to the OP.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,536 ✭✭✭JustJoe7240




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