Joe Biden Presidency thread *Please read OP - Threadbanned Users Added 4/5/21*

What a legacy to leave behind.

2 of his last acts were to pardon his son and to sign off on $8bn of arm for Israel so they can continue the slaughter.

Man's an absolute failure.

While I do not agree with the 8nillion for Isreal I see no problem with Biden gardening his son and he was s far better President than Trump ever was. He was what America needed after the Disaster of Trump but it looks like America decided it wanted to go Binge drinking again and the next 4 years will also be a disaster.

To use an analogy,

Trump was like America getting drunk and on the beer constantly then it sobered up under Biden but now as decided feck it let's go back on the beer and who knows this time maybe do a few drugs too.

Its going to be a rough ride bor the rest of the World but at least this time we are better prepared. I just hope Ukraine survives the mess that will be Trump in power again and all the Trans people in America survive too.

Trump's supporter Orban does have Soros on his smear hit list to be fair. I'm not one who'd spot antisemitism around every corner but the obsession Trump and his supporters have with Soros stinks of it. The man is literally a Holocaust survivor who has engaged in a lifetime of philanthropy with his wealth.

Also the target of a lot of conspiracies hence a shy conspiracy theorist will just name Soros and nothing else.

It's why you don't see the likes of Bill Gates or Warren Buffet hanging with those insects. Two other philanthropists. Not to say that Satya Nadella who runs Microsoft isn't keeping close, but Gates mostly does the foundation now and doesn't do much on the BOT.

I expect the next big noise to be about how Convicted Felon Trump won't take a salary. snore.

I think it is fair to say Bidens legacy will be a mixed bag but by supporting israels actions in Gaza i can't see him ever being described as fundamentally decent. He has a mixed legacy on international affairs with how he dealt with Afghanistan, Iran, Israel and Ukraine. He left the Democrats with a poor candidate to challenge Trump. Harris would not have been their candidate if Biden had recognised he was just not capable of continuing onto a second term. He showed a fair bit of narcissism by refusing to move aside.

He Is not vindicated. The Democrats were stuck with Harris because of Biden. I don't think she would have been their candidate if she had gone through the primaries. Bidens legacy and trumps legacy may both be bad just equally not so. He showed no sense of duty by staying as their candidate when he obviously wasn't mentally up to it.

We have been over this loads of times before.

Who was the instigator ?

Trump, asked for a peaceful protest, just like the Democrats asked for peaceful protests during BLM. Protests that resulted in cities on fire, looting, murder and over 2 billion dollars of damage.

"Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard"

Thats what Trump said.

Incitement is not a crime under the First Amendment unless it meets certain criteria and it's quite rare that somebody can be convicted of incitement.

The GOP has been taken over by crazy people

How exactly does that effect the law or stop Trump being jailed ??

If anything its the Democrats who have weaponised the law, the DOJ and other groups in the US in a bid to jail Trump.

Also this notion that the Jan 6th riot was a coup is unfounded.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/exclusive-fbi-finds-scant-evidence-us-capitol-attack-was-coordinated-sources-2021-08-20/

The FBI has found scant evidence that the Jan. 6 attack, on the U.S. Capitol was the result of an organized plot to overturn the presidential election result, according to four current and former law enforcement officials.Though federal officials have arrested more than 570 alleged participants, the FBI at this point believes the violence was not centrally coordinated by far-right groups or prominent supporters, opens new tab of then-President Donald Trump, according to the sources, who have been either directly involved in or briefed regularly on the wide-ranging investigations.

What a load of codswallop. Trump encouraged and incited and streamed lies starting election night until Jan 6, then invited people down because 'it'll be crazy.' He told the SecService to not install scanners - 'they're not going to shoot me.' (not so prophetic 4 years down the road, eh?)

As far as 'not organized to turn over the election,' well, Jan 6 committee - all of whom have endangered their own lives to do their duty as Congresspeople- certainly proved differently. If it weren't for Trump's corrupt SCOTUS and their time delay coming up with the 'presidential immunity' case, this could have been laid to rest by Jack Smith - another person who has risked a lot - and Judge Chutkan.

But we'll never know; no matter what happens (the Georgia case might still go forward, plenty of fish to fry there yet), Trump will pardon himself. Might do it soon, too.

But, only a fully trusting Trump supporter like @MisterAnarchy would take issue with any of that. Gotta keep worshipping the convicted felon and protect him at all times.

Objectively Biden achieved more in one term than any president in my lifetime, so I've got to give him that

Particularly given what he inherited regarding COVID and Afghanistan.

I even refute the now apparently factual claim by Republicans that Afghanistan was a catastrophe. Objectively one of the best withdrawals by an occupying force in history, when else have you seen a handful of losses, as sad as they were by an occupying adversarial military? People need some perspective and stop listening to the talking heads.

U.S. President Joe Biden has issued a glowing review of Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's time in office, describing him as a man who left the world, the continent and the bilateral relationship in a better place than he found it in 2015. 

Hilarious Joe, one misguided and inept Liberal to another.

That was because the basic policy was set up by Trump, and Biden tried to postpone withdrawal by a few months in theprevail.hope that Afghan Government forces could gain some time to prevail.

Honestly pretty good. Again military withdrawals are historically much worse than this. A bad one would be not getting out or thousands of dead us military. I also question how much useful equipment they gained. I haven't seen reports of them actually flying us helicopters for example. How much equipment is operational and how much are they capable of operating and maintaining.