Dacia Jogger - cheap 7 seater or bad value?

They won't concentrate on estates and hatchbacks any more because people want the big SUCV/Crossover to park outside the school 1 hr before collection time.

The manufacturers make a lot more money vs hatchback or estate, they just stick on bigger wheels, taller suspension, and a wide body kit and voila you got a SUV. They load cars up with tech now too to make more money. There used to be options where you could pick and choose the kit you want, there still is but you can't start with a bog basic car and add the basic essentials now.

I'm hoping for a super SUV tax because the size of cars is gone ridiculous then watching people trying to park is really amazing. Dublin airport is a right laugh watching people have to exit before the driver can park because the cars are too big for the spaces. Country roads these monstrous vehicles are speeding then try to force smaller cars into the ditch thinking I'll do that in my little hatchback because they got a bigger car ? not a chance.

You forgot about reducing the boot size....

Most 7 seaters reduce boot size.

The 5 seater crossovers that are so popular also have tiny boots. I have no idea how they can be considered a family car.

People buy them because they're an "suv" lol and because so many others drive them.

I drove a brand new Duster from Rome to Lyon in a day (sharing the driving with another lad). I’m no motoring journo so don’t have much to say other than it’s a perfectly fine bread and butter family car.

my only complaint is that the seats after a while become quite uncomfortable/firm. Drove surprisingly very well. Dash is quite nice too, not cheap plastic. There’s a nice bar of soft fabric on the top half anyway.

Again, not a motoring journalist but for the money they’re a grand car IMO. My only concern would be how well the 1.0 might hold up after a few years.

No offence Labre but that’s a bit facile. GDP is not a decent measure of the national incll ok me of Irish residents because of the MNE effect. It’s certainly the case that there are more stringent lending criteria for a mortgage than existed in 2007 but that’s like sawing a white doing 200 clients a year is more restricted than one doing 260 per year, it’s not statistically significant. The restricted criteria reduce the losses which a financier might suffer as opposed to being a true reflection of economic reality.

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What was some deal yo be fair because the list on the new tiguan no doubt had increased 👍

Hi All

Great reading all the comments from posters who have "impressions" of the dacia etc.

I've had one since 231 (2 Years). I changed out of a Toyota Verso . Here's my 2c

Positive

Costs about half as compared with next cheapest 7 seater (28k for mid spec vs about 56k for 5008 or Kodiaq)

Engine is fine - returns avg 6.5l/100 on town and 5.6l/100 on motorway

I've driven it with 7 people, full boot and roof box and it is fine as long as you are not overtaking on

secondary roads

More comfortable than the Verso - obviously much less than a Kodiaq etc

Essentially also a minivan if you take out rear seats and fold the second row

Plenty of space in middle and read row - again better than the Verso

Negative

Bluetooth connectivity and infotainment is not great - need to plug in for android auto

Front passenger seat ripped/stiching gave way at back - waiting to get it fixed under warranty

Final thoughts

On a cost benefit basis its a bit of a no brainer for people with average salaries/wealth. If you can afford 60k for a

VW / Skoda etc and want a nicer car then go ahead. For many people like me it was a choice of the Jogger with 3 year warranty etc vs 30k for a 5 year old motor and who knows what potential problems

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Your comment is just as funny from my point of view because Not everyone wants to be in debt on a 50 K on a car, most of which are bought on PCP now too.

A lot of people just want cheap A to B transport, I wouldn't even spend 30 K on a car again. 50 K on a new car with all that tax going to the government, probably 20-25K ? you'd want to be mad. Even if I had 50K cash to throw away on a car right now I wouldn't.

Yeah hard to argue on the tax side. To earn the 50k, I’ve to make 100k - all to get a product that probably is sold by VW by 30k net. It is madness if you aren’t buying something with low depreciation

200 Nm torque, 148 Lb.ft isn't bad in fairness. It's not like someone is going to be rallying a jogger.

You'd want to be mad to pay new price for a Tiguan, absolutely mental. VW prices were always over inflated but now they're seriously high due to domestic issues and partly due to very poor decisions the German government made to energy security hammered industry there, also poor decisions on VW's part so no way I'm going to buy German cars and pay over inflated prices for their junk.