Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

But if the club felt ETH was wrong, and misusing players, why would that not extend to Bruno and Rashford?

Again, I don't think it's u reasonable for the hierarchy to think maybe a new manager to get more out of Bruno and Rashford. At least it seems obvious that would have been a hope. It seems like most people on here gave up on both a long time ago but it's also clear the club haven't. They gave Bruno a new contract in the summer.

I look at Maeda at Celtic and he just does not stop running, they have dominated up there in his time yet he's still motivated. We need players like that, engine for hours and motivated every match.

Easier said than done obviously.

The issue is keeping them motivated and I think the first step is lower salaries and performance bonuses, the days of 250k a week needs to end, I think Maz, Yoro and Zirkzee are all around 100-130k, thats a good base start, younger lads like Garnacho, Amad and Mainoo aren't on crazy money either.

He was at the City vs Everton game with his agent I think. A direct DeBruyne replacement id say.

I'd guarantee all the players at the club think they're professional and giving it their all. There is a thing called the Dunning-Kruger effect where top performers think they are ordinary, and low performers think they are good. Its been tested. High performers find it natural, so they underestimate their performance relative to others. Whereas low performers are so bad they don't even know what good is, literally. They hugely overestimate their performance relative to others.

Most if not all the current team wouldn't have survived in a United dressing room in the Fergie years. The players would have been on them for being shite. In the past young players went in to a team with winners setting standards. Not anymore.

The only way to solve it is several seasons of consistently excellent transfers who bring in a winners culture. Who simply wont tolerate anyone dragging them down. It's not impossible - if Man City could bring in a winning culture from where they started, then Man United can restore it. But its not going to be some quick fix.

"I always give this example, it is like the aquarium. If you have the fish inside and he is sick, and you take him out and fix the problem. If you put him in the aquarium they will be sick again.

I wonder is he channeling any of his predecessors with that analogy…

A lb/lwb need to be priority this January. Dalot is getting roasted for in a position he doesn't play in, sometimes fairly, sometimes not.

We haven't had a lb since Evra it feels like.

the transfers and signings have been awful.

Case in point is Antony - who is like a CIE bus… takes the same route every single time, ends up at the point outside the box every time. Defenders don’t even have to move to negate him. AWB couldn’t cross.

Sanchez, DiMaria, Varane, Casemiro, Ronaldo, Ibra - all over the hill when they were brought in

Weghorst, Fellini , James, Sarbitzer all journeymen

even TenHag was a bit of a spoofer

in Previous seasons there were many matches home and away where DeGea saved points and kept us up the table….

Even at home, teams routinely create 12/15 chances against us

Ould Jim is looking to cut back on that too.

Good the glazers turned us into a circus tbh, invited all sorts of media good, bad, Woodward had his own leakers to try cover up his incompetence, I'd be quite happy for the club to take the hardest line possible they can with the media

Qatar v Glazers+Brexit Jim

How was that even a contest for Irish Man Utd fans?

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In fairness, it’s no surprise that United are talked about more than any other club. They’re one of the biggest supported clubs in the world, and it’s fascinating that a club that big with the resources they have would be in such a consistent mess for so long.

Post-Ferguson it was unthinkable that this situation would have developed. Sure, it may need a few years of adjustment, but eventually they’d be able to use their financial might, hire best-in-class types and follow successful clubs blueprints to get back to the top. But it hasn’t happened and unbelievably seems to be getting worse.

The Glazers have been terrible owners for sure but the initial signs from INEOS aren’t great either. They have money but no idea about how to actually run a football club. The person they do hire to look after football operations is gone after a few months because he has a different vision to the club. They extend managers contract and then sack him and replace him with a new manager who is wedded to a system that doesn’t suit the team at all. They seem to treat the support staff with disdain and are trying to get public money to pay for a stadium upgrade. As I heard on a podcast yesterday, it’s an entirely joyless representation of football.

As long as they continue to get it this badly this often, they will always be talked about! And boards is probably a bad example as 90% of Ireland revolves around 2 clubs. We see the main thread always end up about those 2 no matter what the subject is.

I agree.

Reduced Glazer share with a possible pathway to an exit. Removal of the Glazers from footballing operations. Partial ownership from a local businessman who is a boyhood United supporter.

Vs

A bid that was quite possibly a complete fantasy and if it wasn't, would have led to full ownership as a sport washing operation for an oil state built on slavery and human rights abuse.

Nope, not a contest at all.