Do you believe that we in Ireland are now richer than those in the UK?

the postcode lottery is solely down to the NHS trust and how well it is run.

ultimately, Joe soap is the same whether they live in Dublin, London, Frankfurt or Milan.

It’s an obsession with some people that we always have to compare Ireland and the UK. It’s like that is the benchmark and nothing else matters. How the hell do you compare a country of 5m people with a country of 60m. Not to mention that London is a fairly unique global city and is comparable to Paris and New York way easier than it is to Dublin. Mind you, Dublin bars and restaurants use the “it’s that much in London” excuse to gouge people on the price of a pint.

Which is the way we want it. A society with enormous differentials of wealth tends to have a lot of problems.

The vast majority in the UK are living hand to mouth every month and if they lost a tenner it would be a big deal . Every penny is watched when their shopping , even Northern Ireland is a lot poorer than the 26 counties

I live in south Dublin, only a modest area, dundrum. I work down in dun laoire, dalkey etc sometimes. I see very few serious cars, Aston Martin, lambourgini or Ferraris, in other " wealthy" areas of other " rich " towns or cities, they are ten a penny...

I got a pint of lager in camden town for e6 last weekend, on the main street, cheaper than you'd get it in this low wage, high tax country... when I say high tax, I mean if you're on decent money, 80k plus... a huge amount are outside of the tax net and if working, contributing a pittance in direct taxes...

They do receive a lot of funding, but even recent reports have marked NI as the poorest UK region.

Earlier this year, the Joseph Rowntree foundation listed NI as one of the poorest regions in europe, let alone the UK.

Child poverty in particular is a big issue.

1 in 4 children in NI are living in poverty.

Credit is easler to get in the UK also.

I agree that a lack of flash cars in an area does not mean the area isn't wealthy.

There will be smaller cities in the UK than Dublin that have a lot more flash cars than we have in Dublin, but house prices, average salaries and net wealth in that city will be half that of Dublin.

Very true, but NI has the 2nd lowest median income for full time employees of all 12 UK regions.

The poorest areas are in loyalist housing estates full of hate and don’t seem to have the motivation or brains to go to third level

In 2019,GDP per capita in NI was higher than Wales or North-East England and Brexit has held poorer parts of Britain back. Income figures are about the same as Wales or NE England.

Since 2020 things have improved in the ROI relative to the UK.

In NI, there is some money in the outer Belfast area, but there is a huge problem West of the Bann. Everything in NI is based in Belfast, on this map you cannot see Derry whereas every other place of reasonable size in Ireland has a more prosperous area around it e.g. Co Waterford and Co. Sligo are doing OK.

Ive lived in Toronto for four years, Vancouver for 8 and North East USA for 8. I am not sure I would call Vancouver's problems, poverty, more like extreme opioid addiction. I agree that Ireland has it very good but Vancouver is a hard comparison by any standards. I mean Ireland can even get an overground train to its primary airport, Vancouver , a relatively new city at the edge of Canada, has an underground subway to its airport, right into the middle of the city, as well as other lines. They have top class skiing only 30 minutes out in north van and of course world class 2 hours up the road. You have islands with fantastic ferry service, amazing hiking in old growth forest and the West coast trail there on Vancouver island. Vancouver is literally one of the best places on earth, it's gonna be in demand and therefore expensive. Again I agree with you that Ireland has it good but man, picking Vancouver, I mean there are few places better in the world.

Now the opioid / homelessness is dire and so is the soulless culture of transient rich people who would walk over a dead body for a line of coke and 200k, it's a weird mix...and then the occasional true blood from the country who appears on the weekend to get wrecked.

Assets minus debts.

This is Personal Wealth, nothing to do with the govt or businesses.

Anyone notice how downbeat the sky news presenters were after the fireworks display last night (which seemed smaller/shorter than usual)?

As I predicted in a thread I started many years ago "the UK is finished" .

The UK is indeed finished.

There's a whole plethora of YouTube videos of young people cursing the place and leaving.

They know how bad they have got it and that there's no future.

Here's but one example of many, many

https://youtu.be/zzstEpSeuwU?si=pPlGUgXo5RV8DsR-

Kate seems to be upset that she pays taxes and has to pay back her student loans. Does she expect to not pay taxes and get free third level education?

Are there magic money trees in Hong Kong, is that why she has gone there?