Russia-Ukraine War (continuing)

Nah I think I was pretty consistent, but it's a dialogue of the deaf anyway (which was main point I was making above) - just a waste of time really.

The Soviets and now Russia definitely match or even beat the US for "murder and deceipt" as you put it.

(edit: Also not sure what you mean by that comment on "backing down". The Soviet Union/Warsaw pact "bloc" collapsed due to various internal problems, and that ended the Cold war. They did not back down from challenging the US/Western countries to avoid a 3rd world war, they just could not continue!

Also modern Russia is not the late Soviet Union, politically. I fear the regime in modern Russia might be the most attracted to use of military force to solve their problems that they have had for a very long time.)

Limiting scope to current events, you have USA enabling and winking at an ongoing genocide in Palestine by favourite "pet"/"special child" Israel in my opinion.

However you have an actual world head policeman, Russia, a nuclear power and perm. member of the UN Security Council no less, land grabbing, committing war crimes and crimes against humanity off its own bat in Ukraine and probably proliferating WMD to countries that are under UN security council sanctions too (North Korea).

There is no question in my mind which is the more f-cked up situation, but you just do not want to see that.

I didn't make any massively wild assumptions, but the search function on this site is quite poor so can't be bothered trying to find the post in thread where you mentioned non-Irish background.

My main assumption was it is some country a lot bigger and far more powerful with a more impressive history (on the might & right side of relationships) than Ireland (which isn't much of a stretch now is it!).

So that's a no. I'm shocked at that. Shocked

C—- F —— while reading your post, ‘semantics’ , ‘ going around in circles’ and ‘splitting hairs’ come to mind. Will you for God Sake ‘ get up the yard’ and behave yourself. There is a very serious war going on initiated 109% by Russia only and for reasons that are Putin’s. OWN OPINIONS - and he has an encyclopaedia of them, at least one for EVERY occasion

Koreans get clustered

Getting sidetracked by Bucha? Don't forget Mariupol.

Bucha will sadly only end up being the tip of the Iceberg in terms of Russian atrocities committed.

And they’ve had over 2 years now in some areas to wipe any traces of their ‘liberation’ of said area

They are scum. Russia and anyone who supports them are the absolute scum of the earth. They are a stain on humanity.

Some of the civilians executed by scum of the earth Russian troops in Bucha were on bicycles.

But sure what... they could have used them to invade Russia. Even children. Even old men.

The actual vatnik excuses are at the same level of credibility.

Bonus points for trying to use artillery to cover up the atrocities and then get vatniks to claim it was a false flag.

Vatnik gonna vatnik no matter how outrageous the Russian atrocity or unbelievable the lies to excuse it. We saw the same when a civilian airliner was shot down by Russias little green men. Every excuse, exploiting the fog of war, demanding impossible levels of proof... when every credible reputable agency and expert establishes Russia as being behind it.

Unfortunately your link doesnt support your claims.

According to a number of witnesses in Bucha ,fléchette rounds were fired by Russian artillery a few days before forces withdrew from the area at the end of March.

Given the Bucha was invaded on 12 March, the Russians didnt withdraw until 31 March. Thats at 19 days in which they unleashed evil on civilian population.

The same article links the another article covering the atrocities committed by Russia in the weeks before hand.

A few days later, Vyacheslav talked to a group of soldiers for an hour when they came to check the household’s passports. “I asked them, ‘Why are you doing this?’ and they replied that it was just orders. They knew that other units were killing civilians, but said it wasn’t them,” he said.

You have zero evidence to support your claims. It is an opinion without basis.

As I said, confirmation bias in action.

Ukraine are extremely good with targeting killings on high profile officers behind enemy lines.

Could be Ukraine, but I'd never rule out the possibility of internal Russian squabbling

only to return in a few days with a fresh mandate from Orwell Road, and a complete memory lapse of everything that’s been said & challenged previously…

Maybe even a new account….