Israel closing their embassy in Dublin *Read OP for Mod Warning added 19/12/24*

That is not a defence against war crimes. It wouldn't be the defence if Hamas did the same. If the other side kills your baby you can't just murder their child and it not be a war crime.

Isreal/Palestine serves our government as nothing more than a perfect distraction for the electorate.

Case in point - as a politician Simon has been nothing short of a failure in terms of influence, yet he's in the good books today for barking at a country that has nothing to do with running ours. Angelic Micheal doesn't go to bed thinking about Palestine either.

Even the SD have shown their true colours recently. It's all virtue signalling and PR point scoring. Paddy won't end hundreds of years of conflict by taking the high road. The very same Irish people parading Palestinian flags would be first up marching against Palestinian values

There are people protesting about the treatment of women under those regimes as well but the people who regularly trot out this whataboutery just give put about them as well

You know people fleeing those regimes are seeking asylum but yet there are questions like " what are they fleeing? " and outrage over families being allowed to come to Europe so that their daughters and wives can talk freely and attend school or work outside the home .

There is a whole thread about this sort of addled nonsense on here .

It was a one off diplomatic gaffe or error of judgement by Dev. Equating this to Ireland to being pro-Nazi Germany and pro-Hitler during the war is completely bonkers stuff. There's not even a shred of evidence that the government, the media or the Irish public were supporting the Nazis.

So,

Show me, on the doll, the difference between anti-israeli and antisemitism..

Right.

Actually, It is Israel who will pay the "heavy economic price", to the tune of $6 Billion. Irish interest in Israeli business dropped by 80% after the destruction in Gaza began. The rift will hit Israeli trade hard, not the other way around.

This is already being pointed out within Israel. They've effectively cut of their noses to spite their face.

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That's the pilots in now. Surely things get sorted

What do you mean "if" Hamas did the same? Hamas attacked and murdered people in their beds, and said they'd do it again and again until Israel no longer existed.

Apparently the Irish government thinks an appropriate response to that would have been for the Israeli government to ask Hamas nicely to stop, but Israel, rightly or wrongly, sees that attack as an existential threat, and have responded accordingly.

Israel would love an anti-genocide policy. There's only 7m of them left in Israel! Surrounded by 500m Arabs and Iran and Hamas and co. are killing themselves to wipe them out again. But they couldn't do it without your help.

Accusing the victims of this genocide of itself is kind of genius, evil genius, but it seems to be working.

Where will the Israelis produce their Photoshop-based propaganda memes now? 😀

Their Irish embassy was Ground Zero for their propaganda producers 10 years ago.

Israeli Embassy Sparks Outrage with Racist Art Meme

We should troll the Israelis now by moving a pile of Gazan refugees into their embassy.

Yes but the irrationality of the reaction to it, the fact it's still used as a stick to this day, is precisely why all diplomatic activity is supposed to be done very delicately and carefully to avoid things like that harming a country's reputation.

In this case it's the Israelis acting irrationally. There is no logic in them closing the embassy and pretty much abandoning the small Jewish community in Ireland.

So we shouldn't engage with them at this kind of childish level.

Speaking of irrational policies i'm hoping the government stops all that election stuff about trade sanctions on Israel. The consequences for actions like that on the state would be infinitely greater than anything we've seen in the last couple of days. You're in to economic and political retaliation territory with that especially from the US.

With the Trump administration we're always up against it.

likewise.

I recall telling some of the Israelis working there about how Irish people are - and without mentioning it specifically, I did lead them to believe it was about what's happening in the ME at the moment.
I said "Irish people are very opinionated. We will strongly defend a point we believe in, and almost come to a shouting match about it - but after all the roaring and shouting is done, no matter how diametrically opposed to the other's POV, we'll ask if you want to go for a pint"
This is something lost with some Israelis. If we don't support their VERY narrow and VERY extreme views on defense, etc, then they call us terrorist sympathisers. Nothing could be further from the truth. But then again, from what I have observed with Netanyahu, his far right supporters and their ilk, truth is quite maliable, and comes into the domain of Kellyanne Conway's "alternative facts".
We know from the past, how the Israeli government spokespeople have lied time after time. Mark Regev was a prime example of someone who feeds so many lies to the western media to garner sympathy and support - not realising that there's such a thing as fact checking.

So, pipe down there Mr Sa'ar. Enough of your false narratives to demonise Irish people as being anti-semitic, when your own fellow countrymen and women, and people from your own faith are asking the very same questions we "dare" to ask.

You know something?
Israel has a right to defend itself. Absolutely. Somehow, I don't think you understand how far beyond rational and legal self defence they went. Either that, or you do not care.
And yet you think the man with the big stick kicking lumps out of the small kid is the one who should be protected.

Maybe you are comfortable with the notion that minors can be held in detention for months or years, without charge.
I am not comfortable with that.

Did you ever read the Kairos document from Palestine?
Take a good read of it. It'll detail exactly how the IDF are treating Christians in Israel and the OT.

https://www.oikoumene.org/resources/documents/kairos-palestine-document