Israel closing their embassy in Dublin *Read OP for Mod Warning added 19/12/24*

Ireland is supposed to be a neutral country, why are we picking fights over something that has no benefit to us. Our important partners are, US, UK and the EU, why are we damaging this for the sake of Palestine

Can you tell us your issues with Ireland joining the Gambian case against Myanmar? Or is it just the Israelis you want to protect against such vexatious nonsense?

Yet again you are showing your hypocritical angle

I’m talking about concrete actions that can help

You and the far left are more interested in woke virtue signals that help no one

I am still waiting on answer to this

Once there's no embassy, she's not the ambassador. She's just a random lunatic employed by a genocidal regime, calling in from outside the country. There's hundreds of thousands of those, we don't platform those.

As suggested above, I think you should either look up the definition of hypocritical (and associated words) or at least give us what new definition you are using today.

We've already had the recasting of "antisemite" to meaning someone who isn't a gung-ho supporter of genocide, and "pogrom" to mean a hooligan who bites off more than he can chew getting a bit of a slap back.

I can only assume that from your responses that "hypocritical" somehow now means having the same stance on two almost identical issues when Israel doesn't like it?

we are not neutral though. We aid some countries during the war more than the ones we are fighting like we have with Ukraine and like we did with Britain during the second world war. It is right to speak out against those committing war crimes.

Its's sad for some people they would rather keep quiet.

Why do we have a long history though? This crap with the Palestinians has been going on for 50 years, from the time of the 1972 Munich Olympic attacks, and all the trendy arty students with their Yasser Arafat scarves in the early 80s - no matter what happens, this will be an ongoing theme for the next 50 years, so the only advice I can give to today's kids who are so exercised by this is please don't sweat it, don't worry about it, get on with your life and make the most of what you can control

This conflict is on a bigger scale and currently the world is allowing Israel to commit genocide. I hate to break it to you but caring about innocent women and children is called being a normal human being.

So close. Yet so far. Keep trying.

But it's mad the way you retain the ability to cast a skeptic eye on Russian propaganda, but blindly parrot hasbara. And don't seem to notice it even when it is subsequently shown to be verifiably false.

It's always interesting how people seem to think that it's all about picking a side. When a boxing referee steps in to prevent one boxer from raining down potentially dangerous blows on an opponent who is already down and out, the referee isn't picking a side. And what we are dealing with in Palestine is very much a lightweight versus a heavyweight in military terms and a context where one opponent has the other battered, bloodied, surrounded and incapable of any form of meaningful self-defence of its own.

It isn't a case of black and white side-picking for many of us, but rather a conviction that Israel's right to defend itself should not extend to the wholesale destruction of Palestine and the indiscriminate slaughter of civilians — nor should Israel expect that its self-regulated and self-serving threshold of what is proportionate self-defence should simply be accepted without question by the entire international community.

Irish people are well capable of understanding, and have a fair deal of experiencing, the line between agreeing with the principles of a cause and disagreeing with atrocities committed in the name of that cause. Israel appears to expect Ireland to apply that nuance solely in relation to the Palestinians however, and Israeli atrocities are only ever allowed to be seen as thoughtful, precise, reluctant and proportionate acts of military necessity in every single instance — lest one be an antisemite.

What element of the October the 7th attacks are you saying are false Zionist propaganda as a matter of interest?

Genuinely curious as I've watched pretty much all of the HAMAS videos available as well as the CCTV footage and they're fairly damning recordings, not sure how you'd fake them (that's verging on conspiracy theory really..?)

Israel was the one attacked. Just because you are militarily weak doesn't mean you are in the right.

What element of Ukrainian strikes on Russians in the Donbas and Crimeria do you think are false Russian propaganda as a matter of interest? It was going on since 2014. It isn't disputed by reasonable people any more than the attack on October 7th. Nobody here said either of them didn't happen.

The dishonesty - which is part of both - is the claim by the respective colonial landgrabber that they had to attack and destroy its neighbour as a result of some kind of unprovoked attack out of the blue. And both also flowed from a sequence of events which were controlled by the farm stronger respective colonial powers.