Israel closing their embassy in Dublin *Read OP for Mod Warning added 19/12/24*

In all honesty, what's going to change?

Primarily because Israel is a major power in the world, recognised by almost every other country and is unnecessarily killing civilians.

It's simple, even if a hospital contains terrorists, you don't bomb it. Even if a school has terrorists, you don't bomb it. Yes it's more difficult to get the terrorists but that's the way it should be and "war crimes" is the only way to describe what has been going on.

They have gone about eradicating hamas with zero consideration for civilian life. Their actions both before and now have shown that they don't consider Palestine anything other than an area that should be occupied by Israel and the lives of the people that live there have no value.

Most other conflicts around the world don't involve any major power so obviously doesn't evoke the same level of compassion and doesn't result in the same number of lives lost.

Let's say Israel is successful, removed hamas and occupies Palestine entirely at the cost of potentially 100k civilian lives. Are we supposed to just accept Israel's actions without any questions?

That's literal whatabouttery. You could argue the people should be more active about other conflicts, but that doesn't mean that people shouldn't be active regarding this.

We have a long history of supporting the Palestinian cause. This isn't something that's just happened in the last two years. And that can happen everywhere. people in the US were more aware of the IRA than they were of say the Shining path in Peru. This is due to cultural ties between Ireland and the US as opposed to ties with Peru.

Plus I'd say that when Israel and it's supporters are calling us raging antisemites, it's getting personal for Irish people.

We can send them thoughts and prayers … and more virtue signalling … like we are doing

After all we don’t even have airplanes in our defence forces to send aid

We can’t even get the EU to agree on a unified response

He has a point tho, the only thing we have in common is that we were both oppressed but culturally they may as well be on another planet with things like female genital mutilation and throwing gays out of tall buildings

my point is that we can’t do anything because we don’t spend anything on defence and Europe is divided, and UN is a **** joke, we barely manage a tiny mission with UN to border with Lebanon

we should have bought planes for our defence forces to at least be able deliver aid to here and other countries

So we just endup with empty virtue signalling

Can you list exactly what Ireland has done to help Palestine?

The current developments are a hissy fit in retaliation for Ireland joining the upcoming ICJ case.

Ireland has indicated it simply wants the definition of "genocide" to be updated. The same definition will apply to both Israelis and Palestinians

(It has also indicated it wants to join another upcoming case about Myanmar, but there doesn't seem to be the same outrage from the usual suspects …. funnily enough …. given Myanmar is even further away)

Thank God British and American attitudes from 1940-1945 weren't simply considered anti-German.

This is embarrassing. We are saying Israel does not meet the definition of 'genocide' so we want it expanded. We look stupid.

We did take the same stance against Russia. Which is why the Russian ambassador has been so critical of the Irish Government. I know you are keen to portray it all as a witchhunt to defend Israel, but don't omit important details to suits your pro Israel narrative . The Irish government are right to speak out about war crimes. The problem for you and other apologists is you would prefer if that didn't include Israel.