Munster Team Talk Thread - Beirne After Reading

Watch it again. The castres player did well but if he had just stood inside the touchline he could have also just caught the ball.

Absolutely it's on Crowley.

Interesting to see Bleuler get penalised (correctly) for the tackle that knocked him out. There was discussion on another thread (Ireland I think) about Prendergast tackling an Aussie player when he was off his feet. A few posters said no ref would ever penalise that and one even pointed out Dan Lydiate did it all the time.

no. It looked dramatic but from one angle you can see the winger could have stood just inside the touchline and caught the ball comfortably.

watched some of the game back today.

lots of gaps around the breakdown , at the pillars or opportunity for an inside pass to open them up. We seemed very intent on going laterally looking for the touchlines when it was yielding noting.

The most glaring one is off the forward pass to JOD, Crowley’s pass before that had Barron straight into a gap if he passed the ball inside instead of outside.

shows how far we’ve fallen ….we should of been targeting 9/10 points from these 2 games ….any team serious about winning this competition would of targeted that as minimum

But I dont think anyone would’ve thought Munster were realistic contenders at the start of the season.

Throw in the Rowntree situation and it’s even more so. A QF and targeting the URC should be the aim now. That’s just the reality unfortunately.

Scrums don't matter until they matter and then nothing else really matters.

You can win the league with an average 10 but you won't do it with bad props.

I wonder could we tempt Noel Mc to Munster

It's a LaR raid.

So jackman bullshitting and bluffing with no meaningful action. No surprises there

watched the game, poor result, Castres were down to 14 men for 30mins. We have a serious problem in the front row, as someone said above where are our props/big ball carrying forwards gone. Still plenty of lads playing rugby week in week out for clubs/schools..why are Ireland as a whole struggling to develop players in these positions. Never feel when we are near the oppositions line that we have the bulk to punch a few holes. Met Jager and Killer recently after a game, jesus I'm bigger than the two of them, but also 46 now…people talking about crowleys miss for touch, yes was an error, but its not like our lineout was bullet proof and people saying we just needed to go through a few phases, we were likely to go backwards with our ball carriers. Ulster is the next test, thats our level unfortunately at the moment and they are getting hockeyed week in week out in europe but at least re-building, we need some kind of result there, but Casey will be a loss for the season which will pile more pressure on Crowley.

our squad it seems are made up of players who are A: Up and coming B: On the way down C: Good (being topped up by IRFU Contracts) but not good enough for central contracts. Crowley and Casey you have to imagine are on top ups from IRFU, if they were on CC it takes some salary pressure off to spend elsewhere, or keep some other players. Look at Carberry as an example…as soon as IRFU decided that he was a busted flush he lost his IRFU top up and we cant afford him and he's off to Bordeaux, who are 2nd in top 14 and joint top of their champions cup pool. This will continue to happen.

Irfu have jettisoned attempts the fix the front row problem with Niqs. Only alternative is try and develop them.

A slimani type signing would help

At least with Casey is a meniscus injury and not a cruciate, so he may be able to get back later this season. The Kleyn injury sound ominous though, hopefully maybe Edogbo can get back early in the new year.