Kilkenny GAA Thread

thanks for that link Robwen.

Oh my God, did PJ Kenny really say that.

I’m just wondering did any other posters feel the JOY in hosting the U20 final in Nowlan Park. For **** sake why didn’t any of the county board members call him out on that statement?

ah jaysus come on. Is that the highlight of our year.

that’s what has us in the position we find ourselves in.

really. I don’t think so.

What has us in our current predicament is spending fu**k on coaching and grass roots the last few years

I know it would have taken significant investment to roll out the new underage development pathway

But we spent 86k last year on coaching and games development and 345k nearly spent in 2024

No wonder we have fallen behind there has been no emphasis put on proper underage development for over 10 years or more just constant penny pinching by the co board

Well in fairness he had to say something on the deficit, he couldn't ignore it and say nothing.

I've no idea if sponsorship has been turned down but sponsorship for Camogie is completely separate to GAA county board and if sponsorship was turned down for the camogie team it would be up to the camogie board.

From looking at the report outlined on Monday night, the income for the year is up on the previous year with the commercial income (sponsorship) significantly up on the previous year. If this can be repeated next year, with some big high profile league and championship games in Nowlan Park next year you'd be hopeful that income will continue to rise next year.

The comparison on coaching and games development for 2023 and 2024 is stark but the treasurer and auditor did both say that they had to reclassify how they categorise expenses to bring in line with how Croke Park want them so a lot of the comparisons for the year will be skewed, however given that last year so the big ramp on the coaching side of things there would no doubt have been a significant increase in cost compared to other years.

If you just look at the deficit for this year it does look fairly alarming but in defence of the CB, the finances still look in a very very healthy state. Cash at bank/hand is still at over €1m and the net assets of the company increased even though they made a loss for the year.

One of the big disappointing things for me was that even with all of the giving out and moaning people do about the CB not one position was challenged or anyone stood against the current officers. Nicky Brennan was nominated by his club and elected as honorary president and what he said, which probably didn't go down well with the CB, was dead on, as clubs and fans we are way to silent and don't stand up for what's happening, we've only done it one in the last 20 years and that was last year in bringing the age groups back to 14/16/18 and when clubs stood up and were vocal the CB made the changes. We're not going to change anything at the top table now but we should be putting pressure on them to make changes and start lining people up to make run at changing things for next years convention.

The one other interesting note from convention was a proposal brought forward by Clara to change thesecondary league formats. Instead of having the Byrne & Aylward cups at senior/Intermediate and the all county leagues at junior, the format would change to have (if memory serves me correct) 8 leagues from senior down of 8 team leagues based on last years championship results, i.e 8 senior q/f in division 1 and so forth down the divisions, then in the 2025 season there would be relegation and promotion 2/3 up and 2/3 down so where you finish in these leagues will determine what league you will be in for 2026 and not how you finished in the 2025 championship season. It'll give teams more guaranteed games and the 2/3 up/down means there are very few dead rubber games also.

My point is that both boards seem to have the same mentality, a fear of moving with the times. Avonmore/Glanbia/Tirlan are a huge industry and have been associated with Kilkenny hurling for a long time. There seems to be a certain amount of loyalty from the CB, way too much imo. Companies such as Suir are now ploughing money into Waterford, I'm sure UPMC would do likewise( scoreboard in Thurles is one example), Clune. These are just some examples that are not being fully utilised. I've heard stories that the main sponsor has pushed back and stopped CB from using these other companies. If true, it's not good enough. Why not bring in 2 or 3 more jersey sponsors? 1 on each sleeve and 1 more on top of back over number and leave main sponsor on front. If we had these maybe there wouldnt be a deficit??

Some joke of a ref in the rathnure game. Sending a lad off for a flick which was barely a yellow. Why not give him a yellow and tell him he's on his last chance. Sent off another half time, then gave tynagh a red near the end which will mean that chap will be banned for the all ireland.

Breheny at 11 was very impressive for tynagh. Great minor he was

have the higher echelons of the county board infiltrated this thread?

Noah cahill is a son of ramie who would have been a county minor back in the day..goes.to school in callan. His uncle paul would have been on the senior panel for a while i think too..

A lot of the successful dunnamaggan team of the late 90s have young lads coming through at the moment i think

To be honest very easily, the boards fixed assets for the year and debtors figure increased by more than the loss for the year. The creditors and amounts owed to people were actually down for the year, that's why I wouldn't worry about a loss this year in isolation, if it started to be a trend over the next few years we'd be in serious trouble but from looking at it I think some of the reason for the loss may be down to timing issues and changing of formats to match what the GAA want.

Well done to Freshford in winning the AI semi final yesterday, looks like they'll be up against it V Cork champions. Hopefully they can pull it off

Yes a fabulous match with both teams leaving everything on the field. I felt Tullogher were probably the better team with better prospects in the long run. Dunnamaggin had to rely on frees and Tulloghers wastefulness to win. Credit to both teams for serving up a cracker a week before Christmas

Yes

Possibly but watching in yesterday Tullogher had 4/5 really quality forwards that must have created 30 scoring chances and missed a lot of easy chances. Dunnamaggin scored a goal from a penalty and had to rely on frees to keep in the game and a sweeper to contain Tullogher