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The End of Assad? Syrian Rebels enter the outskirts of Aleppo for the first time since 2016

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,586 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Bashar al-Assad is only 59.

    The hope is one day justice will find him.

    He deserves to answer for his horror as does the pond scum harbouring him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,189 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    🤣 This lad is more well groomed than me, sign me up for 3 months in this prison. FFS, CNN is such a bag of sh!t. I haven't read any of the comments, but i'm assuming this is called out for the BS it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    Because Erdogan dreams about new ottoman Raich and Qatar want their pipeline and they foolishly think they can reign them in after they used them to get rid of Assad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,313 ✭✭✭patnor1011


    lol but they dont have to. Syria is choke full of oil, gas, has a plenty of fertile land plus rebels inherited Asads captagon business. Somehow I do not see any need for any handouts from IMF or any of what you mentioned



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    They could have had self determination in a secular state,

    Where? What secular state would this be, if it were not for Israel?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The word 'genocide' doesn't appear in this article.

    You are reaching and falling, badly.

    https://imeu.org/article/quick-facts-the-palestinian-nakba

    Just because you belive it was genocide, or that the earth is flat, doesn't make it so.

    So, either provide actual proof or row back on your claim.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,866 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Hey, it could join the ranks of all those other secular middle eastern countries… now, hmm, kind of lost for names of those…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Maybe the Jews could have set up a secular state in Madagascar?

    I am all ears about this mythical secular state though @AbusesToilets



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Some support from the local people for terrorists who inflicted the strictest form of Sharia on them? Out to what had been a sports field (before the Taliban abolished sport) after Friday prayers at the mosque to administer Allah's justice? Floggings, amputations, stonings etc. I never met a real supporter of the Taliban while i was there. People paid lip service to them, and the women were terrified of them with good reason. Most of the attacking came from across the border with Pakistan. They would attack in Afghanstan, then just melt back across the border into Pakistan. The Taliban are just murderous invaders, hiding behind religion, same as the Iranian Mullahs, or Isis.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Not all of them, just the one. After they blew the first one, Mullah Omar forbade the destruction of the rest, not from any religious belief, but because he rightly foresaw their tourist value. Behind the Statues, there is a rabbit warren of caves, with what remains of the many other artifacts, including other smaller Buddhas and of course,no shortage of Graffiti. Its thought that there are many more discoveries yet to be made there



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Full of fertile land… Yes it is when they get rain! For 3 years in a row including 2011, the crops failed ( climate change?) and people flooded into the cities looking for help which was not available, so they started the protests which led to the civil war.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,636 ✭✭✭brickster69


    ..

    Post edited by brickster69 on

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,166 ✭✭✭jmreire


    Definitely not good….when you think about the horrors the Russians inflicted on the Syrian people in general, but on the rebels especially, I find it hard to believe that there woukld be any sort of communication between them, except the bullet kind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,411 ✭✭✭j62


    Because Russia already doesn’t have missiles in Kaliningrad which is to the west of there

    /s

    Another nonsense post from TASS / BRICS representative



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,217 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    And more adding as we speak.

    Looks like the south west will end up free and a Druze region protected by Israel.

    Either that or extermination, slavery and repression under Sharia.

    Hopefully the Christian and alwaite etc will be able to hold the western coast of Syria but it is too far from Israel and too close to Turkey to be protected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,833 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    Visegrad24 is well known to be very pro Israeli, so id take what they say with a pinch of salt.

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,217 ✭✭✭✭Danzy




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,421 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Deny, deny, deny. Lies being the main weapon that Israel employs. Arab nationalism was built on secularism. The idea that the native Arab population couldn't have formed a state betrays your own biased views towards them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,147 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Interesting piece in the Guardian about how the rebels coordinated and created a drone unit to take down Assad. Had largely stopped following the conflict a few years ago, had no idea they were this well organised.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2024/dec/13/syrian-rebels-reveal-year-long-plot-that-brought-down-assad-regime

    With the political command slowly unifying, al-Hamwi set to work on training the group’s fighters and to develop a comprehensive military doctrine.

    Al-Hamwi said: “We studied the enemy thoroughly, analysing their tactics, both day and night, and used these insights to develop our own forces.”

    The group, which was made up of insurgents, slowly became a disciplined fighting force. Military branches, units and security forces were created.

    HTS also began to produce its own weaponry, vehicles and ammunition. Outgunned by the Assad regime, which had an airforce and the backing of Russia and Iran, the group knew that it needed to get creative to make the most out of limited resources.

    A drone unit was created, bringing together engineers, mechanics and chemists. “We unified their knowledge and set clear objectives: we needed reconnaissance drones, attack drones and suicide drones, with a focus on range and endurance,” al-Hamwi said, adding that drone production started in 2019.

    The latest iteration of HTS drones was a new model of suicide drone, named the “Shahin” drone by al-Hamwi himself, Arabic for falcon, “symbolising their precision and power”. The Shahin drone was deployed for the first time against regime forces this month, with devastating effectiveness. Artillery military vehicles were disabled by the cheap but effective aircraft."

    (Usual disclaimer this isn't support for HTS/Islamists)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,866 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Mirrors Russia's right to defend itself by seizing land from Ukraine I suppose……………….

    Isn't it a bit convenient that no matter what happens, the zionist's "rights" always ends up with them appropriating land which used to belong to other people………..buffer zones are carved out of what other people used to own, later populated with zinoists, and then a crisis is manufactured which "necessitates" a new buffer zone outside of their previous one. Rinse and repeat. I posted it on another thread, but I would not be surprised if a large swathe of Syria is carved out beyond the buffer and the Gazans are forcibly expelled there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,636 ✭✭✭brickster69


    I would not fancy being in your shoes trying to clean up all this chaos that has been dropped on you. Got a sneaky feeling there will be plenty more to come as well yet. In fact i would not be surprised if someone takes another pop at you.

    Stay safe

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,337 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,217 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Did you ever watch the wire, incredible show.

    One Character says, approx, to another, see that the thing about the old days they the old days.

    60 to70 years ago you had a point.

    Now, not at all, very far removed from now.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,421 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Again, that's a narrative formed from biases, framed around situations where those countries have been endlessly manipulated and disrupted by western governments. How stable would Germany have turned out if the US had overthrown its elected government and installed a brutal dictatorship and subsequently bombed and sanctioned it multiple times over the same time period?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,607 ✭✭✭thereiver


    The hts governed a small part of Syria they governed in a non democratic fashion no free elections it was run as a Muslim state with restrictions on women's dress and behavior there were the usual goverment services it was not as strict or extreme as the Taliban but not effective in terms of running a modern economy people were executed or imprisoned for acts that were deemed non Muslim or anti government actions

    but the Syrian population is made up of various sects religious groups and the Kurds its unlikely that we will see a modern government that respects non Muslim groups minoritys or basic women's rights

    We could see a state of civil war with various groups fighting for the right to rule or be represented in a new government and isis terrorist groups will probably fight to destabilize any democratic government if there is one

    Trump will be in power soon I doubt if he will be too concerned about the rights of Syrian minoritys or Syrian women



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,217 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    Who knows but the Arabic world is not secular and not socialist, probably the least socialist or secular and most extremely antin socialist region in the world today.

    The PLO had a left wing leadership once, there were left wing parties dominant many States and revolutions but that world, a colonial product, is long gone.

    Did America, the Soviets and others do wrong and awful things there, no doubt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,421 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Some sections aren't secular, but many are. We tend to only see the worst, because of events that have created instability and opportunities for terrorists to flourish. The hundreds of thousands of people who protested in the Arab Spring, and in Iran, are evidence that there is plenty of energy and desire for something other than autocrats and theocratic oppression.

    How many opportunities has their been for genuine democracy in the region, when the various powers interfere and arm their favoured factions constantly? Israel has had the benefit of unceasing US support since its inception, despite actively killing US sailors and continuous spying. There's not a single other country in the region that enjoys close to that. The closest would probably be the Saudis, and maybe Shah back before the Revolution. Iraq looks like it might have a chance at becoming a sustainable democracy, after 40 years of brutal violence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    Oh, so you meant Jews could have lived in an Arab majority 'secular' state under the cosh of clerics and Muslims?

    My god, you are naive.


    Look at how secular the Arab world is now. It's a good thing they didn't take up that offer, otherwise their heads would be getting chopped off on a daily basis, and gays, atheists and other 'unlcean' people would be killed.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,662 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    A make-believe state I assume, a state that has NEVER existed in history.

    A secular and democratic state with a Muslim majority and another sizeable religious minority living side by side in peace and harmony….

    Laughable really



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