Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

under the circumstances

But on closer inspection,SF need to look at how to grow their vote

It dropped by nearly the population of Cork city where as numbers voting for FF and FG rose

You can’t fish in a left wing and centre pool at the same time so you’re going to need some sort of hybrid or find a way to marry FF which might lose core voters too

You know the difference between a negotiated programme for government and individual party manifesto’s,you do ?

Both parties said the crisis's will be significantly reduced.

This we now all know.

Let's see how they do, hiding behind that early excusing of failure ^^^ ('ah it was X who wouldn't let us put the measures in the the PFG') won't cut it Pureza.

who’s hiding? The bar is the programme for government

Period

i think they done brilliant tbh. after the concerted campaign of bullshit that was lead against them and the right wing'd 'get them out' ers etc, they've shown they have as much voting power as either ff or fg. I dont think they have issues growing their vote to be fair

FF actually crashed the economy and lost nearly 25% of their actual support in a GE managed to 'grow their vote' back to be the lead party by 9 seats.

Those writing off Irish political parties that lose support for specific reasons do so at their peril.

Carry on.

Logically on the general question on how SF form a government etc. They basically want to be FF 2.0. Populism 1930's for the 2020's.

But the problem is FF are in situ already. SF have arrived late to the game and somehow expect to take over? They have some notions altogether if that is the case.

In fairness to SF they did a fantastic job at crushing Labour/Joan Burton along with PBP. Where the two leaders representing the "working class" but brought up in leafy suburbs of Dublin MLMD and RBB, painted the genuine "working class" Joan as part of the "establishment". All because of water charges in Dublin.

SF have a much more difficult job to tarnish current FF and FG, as there are no major scandals, the country is doing well economically etc. What SF need to get that 10 -15% is a major FF/FG scandal while keeping their own nose clean. And dodging any incriminating new historical information each January, from the archives.

I doubt that is going to happen for decades. As FF/FG are middle of the road centre right and occasionally centre left if the humour takes FF - they won't rock the boat. The Irish people like slow and steady governance not constant turbulence that other countries seem to favour these days.

The Irish government is one of the few incumbents in Europe to stay the course, that is what the Irish electorate want. That is FF/FG's mandate. I notice that SF are always very quick to crow about their own "mandate", but never seem to acknowledge any other parties "mandate". I always get the impression that SF use the term "mandate" as code for justification of "The struggle".

Mary Lou looked knackered as well, tired and worn out. I think there is a lot of bluffling form SF quarters.

I think it was Katie Hannon who asked Mairead Farrell why did SF not make a pre-election deal with parties they would like to go to government in. Instead of trying to figure a deal out now?

There was a long pause and worried look on the face of Farrell. And off she went waffling not saying anything. It was the long pause and the worried look, that was telling for me. As Farrell knew well that SF made a major error there. But she couldn't say it.

Your theory falls apart almost immediately as nobody claimed

the public chose SF to govern.

I seen nobody claim ‘the public chose SF to govern’.
The poster is wrong to claim anyone is contorting to claim that.

The poster didn't claim anything of the sort.

Yeh they did in the first paragraph.