US Healthcare CEO Murdered - Please read mod note at OP

That highlights the difference in argument and why there's no moral equivalence to be argued here.

The CEO was not a healthcare worker, or in any way paid to provide a national service. They were head of a company where profit came before delivery. The HSE and our government doesn't have a profit before delivery mandate to uphold.

I stopped wasting empathy with the US after Sandy Hook because they seemed to think more guns was the answer whereas looking in from the outside all I could see is a bonfire of weapons waiting for a spark.

VHI is not a private company.

And there is no comparison between the Irsh and US health Insurance market. It is remarkably easy to make a claim form one of our insurance companies and they dont do everything in their power to delay, deny and depose

Get sick here and you will be seen. Ireland mostly has issues with unacceptably long wait times for chronic life limiting or debilitating illness, not around cost to access.

Longest waiting times in Europe I think.

This is not a discussion on how good or bad the US healthcare system is. It has its problems, and is very inefficient with lobbyists in Washington being the main issue. I can fully concede the point that the US system has major issues.

But that is separate to the fact that so called left wingers condone the murder of some innocent man walking down the street.

I don't know why people are doing the both sides thing over some dead corporate tapeworm. 

Listen, apologies for my previous comments, you're definitely, 100% not condoning this. Absolutely no way.

If you're going to be dancing on the grave of a murder victim, maybe delete the preachy religious zealotry from your signature.

The reason that many aren’t mourning his death isn’t due to “some” claims being denied though, it’s because of systemic denial of service driven by corporate greed. All you have to do is look on social media to see hundreds of stories of people driven to their wits end by UnitedHealth fighting them on paying for their care, using analysts and AI to override professional healthcare decisions.

That simply doesn’t happen in Ireland. There is no equivalence to the US in that regard. Insurance companies generally respect the doctor as the expert in care and the HSE does provide excellent care too once you’re in the system.

Violence should not be the answer but I can’t imagine the levels of stress and grief caused to these people for little other reason than protecting a giant companies profit margin. It feels like something that was bound to happen.

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But that is separate to the fact that so called left wingers condone the murder of some innocent man walking down the street.

Innocent of what?

How did you view the emergence of civil rights in the north and all that went with it.

Or more recent, Assad's downfall.

Everyone knew, including the regulator what was going on so at some point something had to give.

I suspect you will find that he had a relative that was fcuked over by Thompson, he went through all the hoops and they still fcuked them over

The fact that Thompson and his ilk have the law on their side, is even worse than if UHC were going rogue on their insurance refusals. Did he deserve to be murdered? Well nobody does, but you won't find many who are sympathetic to him. The fairest thing to say is that people gave about as much consideration to his death as he gave for his customers' well being.

Nonbody in America including the Beat cops of NYPD are looking for him.

It's amazing how eager so many southerners are to exploit the history of Northern Ireland to justfiy whatever they want to justify. The civil rights movement in the north was about peaceful protest, and anyone who knows the timeline of events knows that the demands of civil rights movements, (mainly: one man, one vote and fairer access to housing and jobs) were all acquired before the IRA came onto the scene.

Indeed I've heard it argued, quite convincingly, that the presence of the IRA has only harmed the nationalist population.