US Healthcare CEO Murdered - Please read mod note at OP

It's cool to dance on rich peoples' graves, we saw that with the sub implosion.

They've supposedly identified him according to the Mayor of New York(admittedly not the most trustworthy of sources).

Think the US is a country with a lot of big internal issues and festering problems. The odd (looking from outside here in Ireland, in) reaction to this particular murder just shows that.

Someone (sorry - not looking back to find the comment) mentioned the US news/popular media/Hollywood etc. glorifying the ultra wealthy, promoting their worship by ordinary people who prefer to dream of living like them some day over reducing the level of inequality in US society.

I don't think is the case any more (we probably get deluged with enough US cultural output in Ireland to judge that/have an opinion…).

The tone has been shifting somewhat and getting far more "Great Depression"ish (i.e. these ultra rich are often quite nasty and cruel people, "robber barons" stealing the bread from us to sit on vast piles of ill gotten gains).

It started with the Global Financial Crisis, and the govt. response to that and lack of consequences. It is strange that as this has happened (shift in public opinion), the power and combined wealth of that class has grown greater post "GFC".

Now we're probably about to have the most openly corrupt and plutocratic US presidential admin. ever seen under Trump and their power (at least for the members like Musk on the MAGA bandwagon) over "joe soap" in the US is likely to expand greatly again.🤷‍♀️

Unfortunately, could see expanded use of private security.

To be honest, nothing really to do with this murder but have been thinking a bit about what might happen with that in the US over the next while (PSCs and PMCs).

Those bankrolling MAGA and Trump etc. have a large amount of economic and direct political power, so it seems like they just need to add a security & paramilitary element to that to become full blown oligarchs in the kind of Russian sense.

If irc, there was a dragging in from the outer darkness of likes of Blackwater (or Academi or whatever it is now) and its owners/backers under last Trump admin.

Have seen that dystopian talk about some kind of "Handmaid's Tale" under a period of "Trumpism" (I don't buy that really myself and find it unconvincing tbh), but maybe could be some aspects of "Oryx and Crake" emerging ("CorpSeCorps" private police/paramilitary I believe it was?).

I've no doubt that the plutocrats of the USA and the rest of the world would, in most cases, seek to beef up their private security rather than act in a more just manner, but it would really be baling out a sinking ship, if allowed to get to that point. If the President-elect of the United States could come close to being fatally shot on two occasions quite close together, how much peace of mind are a goon squad really going to give the likes of Elon Musk?

If that were the case, would that be very different from a bullied teenager going on a school rampage, as has sometimes been the trigger for such events?

In particular, how would it change the situation? Other than pushing health costs up even more, as top executives demanded, and got, paid security for themselves and their families?

Seems to me that if that is what this is, it's exactly the wrong response to the problem. And would also in some ways exemplify just why it's all such a mess there. They have (in their own words) the best democracy in the world, and they certainly the ability to organise and lobby without fear of prison or worse as in many parts of the world. So if murdering CEOs looks to them to be the best response they have to a sh1tty healthcare system, you really have to wonder about their thought processes.

Going off his theatrics with the bullets and bag full of monopoly money it really sounds like hes incredibly well prepared to just disappear, his one mistake seems to have been the reception picture and even that doesn't seem to be enough so far that we know of to get him identified. If all they have is a bus journey with a route that is roughly 900 miles thats a large area to search and if he managed to evade cameras while getting off the bus anywhere along that route then its going to be a hell of a task tracking him down.

But if he is taken alive and it turns out he was motivated by a family member passing because a policy refused to cover their treatment he could end up as a Robin Hood rallying figure for others who have seen family members left to die by insurance companies? Him actually speaking could trigger bigger problems.

I mean January 6th was a rake of people some in various masks/costumes, this is just one person whos face is clearly visible and a large reward available yet nothing. It appears the public and internet sleuths just aren't interested in ID'ing this guy.

I don’t understand a lot of the sentiment on here and I can’t pretend to either, because the very same people who would condemn other people for victim blaming, are the very same people who are attempting to find excuses as to how the victim is at fault for someone else’s decision to commit murder.

In principle I’m in favour of the death penalty for murder, and this scumbag who took the law into his own hands may yet be sentenced to execution (if he actually did travel from Georgia, they may have a claim for jurisdiction), but like a lot of things in the States, in practical terms the death penalty is economically unjustifiable - the drugs used are just too expensive:

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/apr/09/revealed-republican-led-states-secretly-spending-huge-sums-on-execution-drugs

regarding the suspect’s name, Mayor Adam’s says:

"We don't want to release that now," the mayor said. "If you do, you are basically giving a tip to the person we are seeking and we do not want to give him an upper hand at all. Let him continue to believe he can hide behind the mask."

Do they think the suspect doesn’t know who he is himself?

It’s hard to feel sympathy if this CEO was responsible for **** over people at their most vulnerable.
There needs to be consequences for people making these types of decisions.

This.
A family member needed to see a consultant and was told they be on the waiting list to see that consultant for at least a year.
They then mentioned they had private health insurance and were told to ring the secretary who handles the private side of things for the consultant.
They got an appointment to see the same consultant within 3 weeks.
This right here is the crux of the problem.

Nothing of value has been lost. This guy was scum. I do not condone 

You knew the guy personally did you?

Lets be honest, no one heard of this CEO before this murder, but now folks are jumping up and down for joy because some random dude killed him.

It's amazing that people rejoice in murder so long the target is some caricature. And these people claim to be left-wing?