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Manchester United Thread 25/26 - Teamtalk/Transfers/Gossip Mod Note in OP 26.09.24

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,691 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭The Big Easy


    Wow! You'd have to think there's a lot more to the story. Timing is bizarre however, making it seem like it's connected to an embarrassing home defeat, which surely it can't be?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,942 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    There was talk about sjr being furious with Brailsford and ashworth for ETH being kept on. And Brailsford wasn't going to fall on that sword.

    But ashworth wasn't in place when ETH was kept so that story always seemed off to me.

    I would assume there has been fallout since ETH was sacked. But it all just seems very odd. Wasn't ashworth supposed to be rebuilding the football structures? Which he could barely have touched at this point.

    Also have vivel who is still on a short term contract, is that and his potential responsibilities full time part of this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,271 ✭✭✭paulbok


    Unless there was a problem behind the scenes, something I worried about with all these big names coming to to be the 'dream team', is that Ratcliffe had a meltdown over the lack of progress so far - table position not improving if not gotten worse, and looked for the reason.

    Keeping ETH on and then having to sack him, less than stellar recruitment (Mazraoui a success, Ugarte and De Ligt solid if not spectacular, Zirkzee not looking good enough) would have shone the spotlight on Ashworth.

    I'm sure more details will come out, as everything about United, the defence, dressing room and roof are far too leaky.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Ornstein claims it's mutual, not a good look but we need more info before laying the blame.

    The usual rumours are Ashworth didn't want Amorim and wanted Potter or Southgate.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭markc91


    Could we be replacing him with viana who obviously knows amorim fairly well or has that deal to city been confirmed?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,440 ✭✭✭Quags


    No idea but one thing about this club is there is never not a story



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    More pinch of salt stuff taken from reddit a month ago, apparently he predicted the Ten Hag sacking, again pinch of salt.

    Screenshot_2024-12-08-10-37-31-387.jpg 88myj97zcl5e1.jpeg jiikial1dl5e1.jpeg 2nps6gx2dl5e1.jpeg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,929 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    I remember reading that when it got posted and it’s the first thing I thought of when I saw Ashworth was gone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,475 ✭✭✭Zico


    Ratcliffe Out. It was years before the Glazers starting **** up like this. Is it too much to expect competence from the owners?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,233 ✭✭✭✭DrPhilG


    If that rumour is correct then I'm glad he went!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,005 ✭✭✭secman


    Signings under Dan's watch have been very poor bar one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,220 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    There were posters here who immediately took the default view that Radcliffe and Ineos were no fools and who knew exactly what they were doing. That these successful businessmen were finally going to run the club right.

    My view was that INEOS needed to demonstrate that, to show that they knew what they were doing, it couldn't just be assumed.

    Objectively, right now, I continue to be unimpressed. From all the nonsense last season surrounding appointments, to the farcical way they handled Ten Hag, to more than a few other things, all I see is the Glazers with another name.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,691 ✭✭✭✭FourFourRED


    British Boehly



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭DataDude


    Pretty disrespectful to Boehly considering they’re 2nd.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭el Fenomeno


    Hard to imagine that this is due to anything other than a disagreement or something personal between the two.

    It's probably as simple as Radcliffe is a nightmare to work for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,942 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Disagree.

    Yoro looks good.

    Ugarte has been good since ETH got sacked.

    Mazraoui looks very good.

    Would think it extremely harsh to say de ligt has been poor.

    Zirkzee yeah.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭sjb25




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,143 ✭✭✭markc91


    Screenshot_20241208_111508_X.jpg

    Good thing he's gone then!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,850 ✭✭✭larchielads


    city thrilled utd keeping spotlight off their on field failures at the minute



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    If he wanted Southgate I'm glad he's gone!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,271 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    100% agree.

    De Ligt I'm on the fence about but the others look solid bar Zirks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,457 ✭✭✭The Big Easy


    Southgate would be a strange hill to die on. I imagine there is some personal dynamics involved in this which is very disappointing.

    Hopefully it's not that SJR is a spoilt man child, his public interviews have suggested otherwise, but this doesn't look good for anyone.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,208 ✭✭✭thegreengoblin


    In appointing Ashworth and keeping Ten Hag on after summer, that's now two massive decisions INEOS have gotten spectacularly wrong when they're barely in the door at Old Trafford. It would hardly fill you with confidence. To borrow a famous phrase from Star Wars, I have a bad feeling about this…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,267 ✭✭✭✭billyhead


    Agree. Ashworth must have been losing the plot if he wanted him but then again they were mates.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    I hope the club has someone lined up asap.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,942 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    I doubt it.

    I reckon omar takes on more of a football responsiblity (apparently an issue with ashworth). Will see wilcox given more responsibility. I think Fletcher will take on some of the stuff wilcox had, abd then vivel will be given a proper position.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,881 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    I can see the logic in a stopgap manager like Potter or Southgate for a couple of season who is familiar with the league and players.

    The reality is the Man Utd squad is full of high salary long term contracts that they couldn't possibly hope to sell to anyone so I'm not sure where the funding is going to come from to build a new team for Amorim when they still have to pay crazy money every season to Casemiro, Rashford, Mount, Antony, Sancho etc

    Amorim just seems like the right manager at the wrong time with the amount of deadwood eating up the wage budget that needs to be moved and the time that'll realistically take.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,791 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Yeh was thinking Vivel would be given a proper role now.



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