US Healthcare CEO Murdered - Please read mod note at OP

This scene from the Saw franchise immediately sprang to mind when I heard about this tragic incident.

Ok that's horrible - but Americans could have a proper health service if they wanted one. They don't actually want one, in the same way as they don't really want gun control. Because they don't vote for people who want a national health service, and they don't vote for people who want gun control.

Look at the internet comments whenever there's anything in the news about guns - so many of them are all "I'm glad my country allows me to defend myself" - it's much the same thing.

They don't actually want kids to die in schools, but they don't hate it enough to go without access to guns themselves. They don't want families to go bankrupt over essential healthcare - but they're still convinced that anyone who really wants to change the system is a dangerous commie. Even Democrat supporters think it.

So no, murdering the head of an insurance company is just another example of what a violent country it is. And that's the way they want it. The proof is that so many of them are happy the guy is dead.

We are indeed a flawed species, imagine using an algorithm to decide if people should live or die. This guy was a head of a company that sent countless 50 year olds with their own families to their deaths. Why is it any more evil that his death came because of the pulling of a trigger instead of a scribble of a pen.

They're only angry because their family can't get the healthcare they want. What they absolutely don't want is for everybody to get access to healthcare, so… you know. Aren't they all pretty much the same as him and his family really?

I don't think it's fair to say what Americans want anymore than it is to say that north Koreans don't want civil rights. There is no process of referendum in american to democratically change legislation for example.

Ah heeyur! US democracy is comparable to North Korea?? I mean, seriously.

I think most Americans would laugh at that claim. As indeed they should.

(There's no process for such a referendum in the UK either - in fact a referendum cannot be legally binding there. So are they like North Korea too??)

It's a matter of perspective. Some see the instant murder of an individual. Some the calculated corporate killing of thousands over an extended period.

They do not have federal referendums and healthcare requires federal legislation.

There is no direct democratic process for them to express their desire for universal healthcare.

It won't make any difference,there are probably 1000 more executives ready to step into this guys shoes,the company won't change.

You're assuming average Americans want free healthcare. A very dubious assertion in a society that worships individual economic independence. The USA is very different to countries in Europe with different attitudes to these things.

I remember when Obama was campaigning first, way back in 2008 I think, seeing interviews with ordinary Americans about the concept of universal healthcare, including a bunch of interviews at a mobile healthcare provision for people without regular healthcare - basically a charity that sets up in a town for a few days and then moves on.

But the thing is that many of those people, who were so desperate for affordable care that they queued up for a random doctor to deal with their often chronic illness like refugees in a war zone - and even they were fiercely against universal provision of healthcare.

Incomprehensible but there you go.

Can we say the same thing about anyone who’s repeatedly voted for a politician who didn’t/doesn’t support universal healthcare? They’re responsible for their choices too.

What about people who work in these companies? Just because they haven’t got promoted right to the top doesn’t mean they have no responsibility does it?

And what about hospitals and other healthcare providers and pharmaceutical firms - what’s their level of responsibility? What about banks and investors - don’t they play any role?

Where does responsibility end? Can’t we shoot the politicians? The financiers? What about all their enablers?

I don't see the assassin remaining at liberty for too long now that an image of his face is everywhere. Police depts will be pulling out all the stops for this, it won't be tolerated.

10k reward up for grabs, a lot of people will put their distaste for healthcare ceos aside with that carrot dangling in front of them.