Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

Well, to be fair, I think many on both sides here appear to have disregarded the acknowledgement by all the large parties that more robust immigration and asylum policies are needed. Because many seem to be operating under the continued illusion that any of these parties are pro "open borders" — when they are not.

Of course, those who lament these parties as open borders advocates seem to be of the view that one day in 2022 (Ireland having never really had a major influx of asylum seekers) — these parties just made a collective proactive decision entirely out of the blue to become pro-open borders and this entirely domestic decision had absolutely nothing to do whatsoever with the prevailing situation in Ukraine and globally following the lifting of travel restrictions.

Voters are concerned about immigration and asylum — but what they have rejected are the melodramatic fearmongering views about it peddled by some and regularly trotted out here.

I've said it before, but the people who think that the Irish people don't take immigration seriously enough should focus on more positive arguments and actually set out a vision that can have wide appeal — rather than constantly vilifying people as enemies within and foretelling the onslaught of the apocalypse.

So an anecdote about a very small group of people? No one here seems surprised or upset

Their supporters are so upset that they’re posting on other places but are keeping it a secret on Boards? That makes no sense

It is absolutely true. The reasons being that a lot of people don't/can't get documents in their own country.

It's up to the host country to investigate their claims

Michael O Leary says it’s a scam , that they are flushing their documents then arriving for flight, Good article.

https://www.newstalk.com/news/ryanair-working-with-department-of-justice-to-photograph-passenger-documents-1735922

How did they get on the aircraft without the documents?

According the particular regulars on here…

Q: Hey they're going to put 1000 IPA's into a building next door to my kids Crèche and the Primary school and I don't think that's right, there was absolutely no consultation before the ministerial order to open the IPA centre in my village with 1 doctors office and no Garda station…

A: Enough with your racist far right fascist comments, be quiet now!

What is the relevance to the crèche/primary school?

Sorry we can't have that sort of talk, diversity is strength…

Well, aren't you also ignoring facts?

Sweden carries a similar legacy to France in terms of having built high rise blocks that were subsequently used to house almost all new asylum seekers — leading to ghettoisation which was then exacerbated by the influx of Syrian asylum seekers.

While Ireland's handling of the influx of Ukrainian refugees left much to be desired (perhaps understandably given our country's relative lack of experience in dealing with such things and its first experience being a major war on the European continent), the approach has been different.

What's actually quite funny is that — even in this article written by a member of the right wing Sweden Democrats (https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nationalreview.com/2023/07/the-lessons-for-america-in-swedens-immigration-failures/amp/) — there is reference to how NIMBYism was also a crucial factor in Sweden's eventual problems. He speaks of the failure to geographically spread asylum seekers throughout the country as a primary cause of issues.

Ireland of course — haphazardly and faced with a tricky situation — actually did try to spread accommodation out. But that wasn't good enough for many on here either, who lecture us one day on Sweden's problems while also glorifying the very same opposition to asylum seekers being spread around the country which led to a lot of Sweden's problems.

Too much traffic…

As a teenager or school kid large groups of men hanging about is intimidating. Particularly for teenage girls. Just to remind you these are men with nothing to do all day so that’s why they’re hanging around in groups

1990s: use your instincts. Exercise caution if you feel unsafe. Stranger danger

2024: you’re just racist, feeling intimidated by older groups of men hanging about all day with nothing to do is a you problem

 Ireland is on the way of resembling England. I expect the next election Ireland will be as multicultural as England

What is your issue with England?

Just FYI, the white British population is 73.5% of the population. The white Irish population is 77% of the population.