Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

At least we will get a break for awhile on the lies about the rise of the far right.

Don't forget Derek Blight, Philip Dwyer, Malachy Stenson, Pepper, who am I leaving out?

Funny, they had been getting a lot of praise on the thread from people who make similar comments to yourself.

Apparently the lowest election voters since 1923

And you might think you're removed from the behaviour of these loons.

Personally I think those who engage in the anti-immigration rhetoric and fear mongering, in full knowledge of the violence, harassment and abuse going on all over the country, are also quite culpable.

Why would I? I wasn't referring to you specifically.

What is far right rhetoric?

'Unvetted males', the country being 'flooded', 'bogus', 'illegals', all the lies about welfare tourism, safe countries, cherry picking crime reports, fleeing active warzones, people being 'imported', cultural purity etc etc

There's very little but this kind of hateful rhetoric coming from the anti-immigration posters on the thread from what I can see.

pretending large scale migration of unskilled mostly young males into Ireland isnt a issue is a fairly good trick too

Is it? Seeking asylum is a fundamental human right. What do you suggest we do about that?

I am somewhat aware of these names, although I could not link them with any party.

I think some of them are current Cllrs?

I am probably incorrect, but are Blighe and Stenson Cllrs? I think?

Are they in parties, or are they independent? I'm not sure myself.

At the moment, I can't see any of them building any success.

I never use the phrase "vetted", and I don't think it's helpful.

However, the fact remains that people are arriving into the country to claim asylum, having deliberately discarded their travel documents and ID papers.

Why would they do this? A genuine AS would not do this.

Therefore, they are not genuine.

Therefore, they are bogus.

"Flooded" is a provocative and unhelpful term. The number of illegal immigrants making bogus asylum claims is small, compared to the scale of legal immigrants.

• UKR refugees = legal = 105k+, maybe 110k
• Work visas = legal = maybe 30k pa? I must check the numbers
• Student visas = legal - how many I wonder?
• AS = illegal = maybe 20k pa? The total is 140,000 over the last 30 years, I suppose that is significant enough.

"Illegals" = yes, if you deliberately discard your travel documents, you have entered the State illegally.

"Bogus" = yes, after following asylum cases all the way back to the earler waves of west Africans, I contend that the vast majority of asylum claims are bogus. All claims from Albania and Georgia are bogus, for example. The American claims are obviously bogus.

I have to smile when I see failed AS that we allow to stay, then returning to their country of origin for a visit. God Help Us, we are so stupid and soft, they must think we are fools.

(remeber Pamela Izevbekhai: https://www.independent.ie/regionals/sligo/news/pamela-deported-after-six-year-battle/27582565.html)

"fleeing active warzones" = this is another great line used by the NGOs, whereas we all know the truth, that the majority of AS come through NI and GB.

Is Leeds a warzone? Bristol, Birmingham?

During a previous wave of illegal immigration by Asian men making bogus asylum claims, it was revealed that 50% came from the UK

I am amazed that the likes of Sinead Gibney lie on live televsion about AS, and yet she was elected in the GE!! People are awful soft.

People appear to have forgotten that FFG purposely announced a tougher asylum/IPA stance, FG after Harris's election as leader and both in advance of the election being called and in the campaign and the media reported on this repeatedly.

Also, SF had a bit of a flip on their immigration policy stance before the election then immediately were labelled as having 'lurched to the right' by the gaggle of leftist microparties, in particular Bacik.

Therefore, it is not unreasonable to assume for a large percentage of those who turned out to vote that the two main govt parties and even the main opposition party had satiated their immigration worries which was a foolish thing to believe, but there you go. I don't hold out much hope that FFG will reverse the shambles of what they have wrought and that will definitely not happen if they invite Labour and/or SD into govt

The actual far-right 'nationalist patriot' micro non-entities won't be making inroads like their cousins on the bonkers marxist left have - they are in the Dail and councils and in the parties which used to be working class left parties (splits are a hobby for these, just like their nationalist patriot cousins) and have been for ages with not a bother on those who are so concerned with extremists.

A few I love that !!

They talk the talk about illegal immigration these fringe parties but would they do anything to sort it after in the long run. Sensible measures to reduce and stamp out it by a government that puts its citizens first. Think ff and fg are too big business orientated and they turned this into an industry to make big money off the taxpayer

Some people seem very upset that the patriots and citizen journalists made an absolute holy show of themselves at the polls.

RTE, the state and Gerry Hutch all colluded to steal the election.

Hopefully the Gardaí are looking at this and a file will be sent to the DPP.