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November Vanilla Werewolf - Game Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    1 more mislynch, we lose



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    i'm leaning towards mac danger



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I've had a look at the first of those villagers since you mention it:

    Neo @1911 on 25th Nov in reply to WM:

    I already explained I’m sick and a bit brain foggy. If you think that comes across as defensive, we’ll you do you.

    So, after all your cryptic junk in the thread, you have me and Liz as the wolves. Fair play. We should all do cryptic crap like that in future.

    Btw jayo, this is my FFA1.

    Neo @2012 on 25th Nov in reply to WM:

    cheers, If you could please not eat me tonight, i'm sure will be able convince others tomorrow to yeet me.

    Unfortunately, Neo got munched before he could say anything more about you; that was convenient



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Looking at the day 2 lynch votes again:

    Why was Lordy forced to change his vote rather than the 3rd wolf changing theirs:

    Wolf Lorcan: Was already on a wolf so couldn't switch

    Wolf Oscar: Was already on a wolf so couldn't switch

    Wolf Trit: Was already on Oscar; him, Strawbs & Lordy were the other wagons so had nowhere to switch to

    Wolf WM: Was already on a wolf so couldn't switch

    Wolf MacDanger: I could have switched although it would have conflicted with my FFA (Trit, Leggy & WM)

    Wolf Yoss: Ended up on Lordy so this is a great look

    Wolf G&R: Moves from a non-wolf to a wolf; this wouldn't make any sense

    Yoss is top villager by a mile, I can't see any scenario where he's a wolf

    Based on the above, it's either Trit or WM for me - WM seems to be anxious to railroad the voting so that has him top of my list ahead of Trit (although I did vote for Trit at that lynch so that's bugging me too!). At the moment, I'll be voting WM



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    With Oscar and LER gone I've made my choice. I'm not for changing now.

    I've read back numerous times over the thread at this stage.

    I'm comfortable with my vote.

    I only have one question?

    Why do you think previous villagers all have highlighted you ahead of trit, yoss and myself?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    I'd say you are comfortable with your vote alright! Handy way to avoid answering questions - are you denying that your strategy was to bring Oscar (who had previously been your most wolfy) to the final lynch so that it'd be a landslide?

    You've posted about the dead villagers a couple of times now but no response whatsoever to my quoted posts from Neo? Doesn't suit your narrative I guess

    In yesterday's list, I'd say the main reason people had me ahead of others was because I haven't (other than the Lordy vote who as it happens, you didn't vote for) voted for a known wolf. You'd have to ask them to be sure though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    I wasn't looking to bring Oscar anywhere. I was suspicious of them, as I think we all were at some stage but the game is about re-evaluating when more info is gained.

    Why don't you post Neo's next few posts or his FFA and look what they said about me. Is it because it doesn't suit your narrative?

    I'll go find it for you



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    @MacDanger

    Wasn't too hard to find. He is meh on me.

    Funny you didn't post it as he is scummy on you.

    Like I said didn't suit your narrative.

    Nice try though



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Not sure if you're just making a mistake here or being completely disingenuous. The time stamp on the post you've quoted is 0206 on 25th November i.e. late Sunday night/early Monday morning; the posts I've quoted are from Monday evening @1911 & @2012 on 25th Nov.

    Why are you lying about this?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    going to spend some time on read back. On reflection leaving Oscar around was possibly a better strategy last lynch, and play in the grey area instead-meh whatever


    of the remaining


    if Yoss is wolf he deserves to win, I won’t be voting there


    Mac vs Wm is where it’s at at this point.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    On phone so it took time to scroll through the pages.

    My bad, you are actually correct to be fair there. I read on. Neo was not a fan of my cryptic and then switched to me. In saying that, if I was wolf I certainly wouldn't have munched him first, as it would have drawn too much attention on me.

    What I will say and lorc alluded to it. I don't believe you've been a helpful villager. You kept a very low profile and really only started posting more as you started losing fellow wolves.

    I may have arsed about on Day 0, thought that was the whole point of having a non lynch/munch day but once the game has started I've had a pretty consistent level of engagement across the game and I've pushed people by asking questions to find a wolf.

    Can you really say the same?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    if I was wolf I certainly wouldn't have munched him first, as it would have drawn too much attention on me.

    So you wouldn't have munched someone who voted for you? But after munch earlier, you said:

    I think Mac munches Green to remove a vote of of them for lynch later.

    That's a pretty convenient way of looking at the exact same thing in completely different ways.

    I may have arsed about on Day 0, thought that was the whole point of having a non lynch/munch day but once the game has started I've had a pretty consistent level of engagement across the game

    Helpful? You're having a laugh, right? The crytpic FFA that you did was on Day 1, not Day 0 so is this more lies? Another mistake in your timeline?

    I've asked plenty of questions and I've been pushing FFAs because as I've said, not doing FFAs suits the wolves and allows them wiggle room. I questioned both Trit (about what looked like a fake interaction with Neo before Neo got munched, it's why I voted for him) & Yoss (I've been at him several time about the fake vote).

    For me, it all comes back to the votes on the 2nd lynch and why Lordy voted the way he did - if you look that logically, it's 100% not Yoss and IMO, it's down to you or Trit and looking at that in combination with you wanting to keep Oscar for the final lynch makes you the last wolf



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Will be off now shortly until around 8 I'd say but will definitely be back before lynch



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    Never said my cryptic was on Day 0, that's a discussion creator which I've said before. Whether people agree or not is up to them.

    My hello fellow wolves was Day 0 and was arsing about.

    Don't remember you voting for Green before they were munched, so not the same at all actually.

    I disagree about you asking questions. Now when your back is up against the wall you ask questions. Pity you couldn't be this helpful and active from the start.

    You can spin the it all comes back to votes on 2nd lynch but look at your own voting.

    I'll say it again and you can answer when youre on again.

    LER, lorc, GnR and Oscar. The last four villagers all lynched or munched had suspicions about you.

    Why do you think that is?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    It's been a busy day in work, so forgive me if I've missed something obvious you're are talking about, but I don't get your question, I think Mac is wolf!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    from your post above:

     I don't believe you've been a helpful villager



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,631 ✭✭✭wrestlemaniac


    As in, Mac claims to be a villager, but I just don't see how he has been a helpful villager as I don't see him contributing to village



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    so read back tells me I have a choice between the guy who started openwolfing and the guy who started as a ghost…….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Mac things you first read list


    “Here's where I am with everyone at this early stage:

    Necro: Has > 40 posts and was in for Liz on his 4th post which is fair enough as a cage rattle; I'm not sure if he's using her later posts to fit that narrative or if he actually thinks that she's a wolf (as below, I'm not convinced). If Liz were to flip wolf, I'd have him a practically lock villager. First one to post a list of reads which is a good look.
    OscarMIlde: ~ 20 posts and I'm finding her hard to judge, some good posts though
    jayo44: < 10 posts so hard to judge, appears to be a newbie
    Leg End Reject: ~10 posts, first post was straight to Strawbs' list which I didn't like as it feels like they're setting themselves up to follow whatever Strawbs says
    lorcand1990: ~30 posts, lots to like here IMO, rattling plenty of cages
    JP Liz V1: ~25 posts, more villager than not for me; while her play isn't fully chaotic Liz, it's not as measured as the last game IMO.
    Neowise: ~ 25 posts, overall, I think their posting is villager but on second reading of their list, I really dislike that they put themselves in it. Still a village lean though
    y0ssar1an22: Unknown, 2 posts
    Lord TSC: ~ 10 posts, not saying a whole pile yet, seems reluctant to accuse anyone which I get to an extent but would like to see something more during the day
    wrestlemaniac: ~15 posts, probably my most wolfy read - the opening comment "hello wolves" and esp for the comment "how you reading myself?", both felt a bit needy to me and trying too hard to be TWTBAW.
    tritium: ~10 posts, another poster I like, rattling a few cages without going mad, village lean
    StrawbsM: ~10 posts, making a big deal of the list thing sort of annoys me but at least it's something, will wait and see if she delivers reads based on the list
    Green&Red: Yet to post”


    lots of opinions there but I’d really like to know why you managed to be bupkiss neutral on two wolves in there- plenty of villagers rated, wolves not so much. Explain please



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    who you thinking is the final wolf trit?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,582 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    In retrospect, that's not a great look but you'll note that both only have around 10 posts when I'm doing that list so there's not a lot to go

    I'd ask you and Yoss to look at the night 2 lynch votes - that's concrete evidence which cannot be argued against. I've given my views on the votes earlier today and that's what I'll be basing my vote on



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 18,520 Mod ✭✭✭✭Trigger


    Reminder: Yeet at 9.30pm



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    veering towards Mac but I can’t shake how wm provides the intro for strawbs list on day 1. Feels contrived but macs first list is also garbage in its view of the two known wolves


    any thoughts on your side?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    just looking at the votes to date:

    trit has not voted for any wolves.

    macdanger has not voted for any wolves.

    wrestlemaniac has voted for strawberry.

    feck, this is tough

    *excepting night 3, where there was the lord bandwagon.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    Also think wins first day to almost too in your face for a wolf. He’s kind of asking for trouble if a wolf. Open wolfing or sign of a village messer I honestly don’t know but I’m veering more village at the moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,793 ✭✭✭tritium


    that should be WMs



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    i think i have to clear you on account of lord voting you night 2.

    if you are the wolf, then fair play.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,300 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    yeah, thats why i voted him night 1. thought it was such a backroom slip, but people said thats just his way.

    that then leaves macdanger.



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