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The State of Music in the Mainstream!

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  • #62
    felonious_Gru
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭felonious_Gru


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122871261#Comment_122871261

    Even sh1t music was good forty years ago, nowadays mainstream pop is just some sort of mash up involving a hip hop beat or some Ed Sheeran clone



  • #63
    L Grey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭L Grey


    I listen to to alot of music but its mostly rock/metal in all its forms.

    AC/DC and the like would be cancelled today.

    Rock/Metal has had its balls cut off so all we get there is rehashed repolished turds or safe self-righteous wankstained bland rock.

    Its a return on investment business now anyway. Why would a music exec take a punt on a band when they have the formulae as to what will sell.

    Ticketmaster, livenation and Spotify own music now too. They pay pennies to everyone but the big established acts.

    I still buy cds; but a few sexy people like myself buying albums wont keep a band on the road or pay for the studio.



  • #64
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 450 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122878706#Comment_122878706

    "You're just getting old" is as much of a tired cliché as "back in my day things were better". Pop music has obviously changed drastically. And that's just how things go - things change, sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse. I'm an indie chick but I do love a good pop tune.



  • #65
    zv2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,792 ✭✭✭zv2


    Boom Tssssit, Boom Tssssit, Boom Tssssit…

    Boom Boom Boom Whaaaa

    Boom Boom Boom Whaaaaa

    Boom Boom Boom Whaaaaa

    Boom Boom Boom Whaaaaa

    It looks like history is starting up again.



  • #66
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122879864#Comment_122879864

    If Steel Panther are releasing songs like this in the modern era with no objection then I think AC/DC and the like would be alright.

    https://youtu.be/2myLjGeYOu0?si=-Bs-i_DuC0k-20V3


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  • #67
    thereiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Record company's choose to no longer support new rock bands for various reasons there's a wide range of pop music being made eg biilie eilish Sabrina carpenter chappel roan Taylor swift Beyonce etc I think every generation feels music was best when they were young Old rock groups still can sell out arena,s with the apps we have now and YouTube you can listen to the music from 20 or 30 years ago .I remember the 80s when we had popular trad groups like Clannad music is constantly changing

    Big acts can earn more than ever as ticket prices

    are more expensive

    I prefer music before 1990 most music now sounds like it's all being made on computers

    Bit I think there's still good music being made by

    a wide range of singers in 2024. I.m not a rap hip hop music fan so i can't comment if it's as good as it was in the 90s

    I think it's causing problems that ticketmaster owes most of the big music venues so artists have no choice but to deal with them

    I don't think acdc would be cancelled now if they started out as a new Rock group

    Its sad there does not seem to be any more new rock groups on the scene with the popularity of oasis



  • #68
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Monopolies are never good only for the monopolist. So one would think Spotify and Ticketmaster etc gotta be poison for the industry and moreso for the customers and the artists . And I have no idea why those market conditions have not yet attracted the attention of EU competition authorities tbh. Maybe all is rosy there? I dont know enough about the music industry tbh. It looks off to me though.



  • #69
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122893574#Comment_122893574

    Ticketmaster are a scourge

    Spotify don't pay artists very well. There is competition from Qobuz (lossless sound quality) and Apple Music.

    Customers also have a choice of physical formats - almost every new album still gets a vinyl and CD release while the reissue market is very active albeit the pressings are more limited than before and sell out quickly.



  • #70
    L Grey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭L Grey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122890540#Comment_122890540

    You're not really comparing like with like there.

    Steel Panther are a comedy band that nobody takes seriously.



  • #71
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122894569#Comment_122894569

    They tried to "cancel" AC/DC in the eighties, you mustn't have heard of the PMRC or their shows being picketed by right wing Christian groups in the American south.



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  • #72
    silliussoddius
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,154 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    They have a tour planned for 2025, let the cancellation begin.



  • #73
    thereiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Spotify are not a monopoly theres apple music I think ticketmaster are getting sued by the ftc for being a monopoly or having too much control over big venues which they sell the tickets for too.



  • #74
    L Grey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭L Grey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122894639#Comment_122894639

    They tried but didn't succeed so not much of a point you were trying make there.



  • #75
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122894806#Comment_122894806

    And they would succeed nowadays???



  • #76
    L Grey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭L Grey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122894814#Comment_122894814

    Ah you're a moderator.

    I didn't notice at first but I knew something was off.

    Yeah good luck with the baiting, nearly but no.



  • #77
    Say Your Number
    Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭Say Your Number


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122894826#Comment_122894826

    Good job at sidestepping the question.

    All the best!



  • #78
    L Grey
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 387 ✭✭L Grey


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122894828#Comment_122894828

    Good job sticking with the baiting.

    Good luck with the working for free though.

    Lol.



  • #79
    Big Gerry
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 939 ✭✭✭Big Gerry


    The internet killed the music industry by making music free.



  • #80
    Thrashssacre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,343 ✭✭✭Thrashssacre


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058352948/the-state-of-music-in-the-mainstream

    This reeks of "back in my day" bollox. Theres tones of brilliant music out there, more then ever before you just dont need a select few radio stations or tv stations to find them anymore.



  • #81
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122894866#Comment_122894866

    I never said there wasn't good music out there, and I've addressed this already, you shouldn't have to go looking for good music. It should already be in the mainstream, and as it's not, is the issue



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  • #82
    BaywatchHQ
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 757 ✭✭✭BaywatchHQ


    I an understand why people prefer streaming given the disgraceful packaging of the new Linkin Park album. For a band with so much merch they couldn't release a CD edition with protective packaging. It isn't even one of those Digipacks, it is a sleeve where the disc actually falls out if you move it. I had to move the disc into an empty CD case.



  • #83
    thereiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    Yes there's good music being made but everyone can also listen to the best music from the 90s 2000,s or any decade you like no ones limited to what a few Irish or UK stations play



  • #84
    thereiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    If you go to podbay fm search newstalk how music was dumbed down it's a short podcast . it explains there is less melodys used in pop music the melody is shorter and repeated more in the average song .this has happened since the 80s

    I think the difference is the best bands of the 70s 80s 90s 2000s used the classic guitars drums singer maybe with 2 guitarists to produce high quality songs

    Of course every decade has songs that were mediocre and sound awful to listeners today

    We forget those songs but we remember the best classic songs like don't stop believing or the great songs from queen Tina Turner etc

    Software is used to increase the complexity of production and effects but in general the melodys are very short and repeated many times in most pop songs released in 2024

    i cannot think of a pop group now that has the range of melodys and insightful lyrics of the Beatles .

    most groups have 2 hit albums and just tour as long as people want to hear them

    Post edited by thereiver on


  • #85
    CalamariFritti
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,555 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    They accused the punk and indy era of only knowing three chords. 😀 For many bands that was probably true enough when they just started out. Anyone who picks up a guitar for a couple of days can do Joy Division. So simplicity itself isnt a new thing and it doesnt mean the music has to be sh1te.



  • #86
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 4,229 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122903467#Comment_122903467

    The packaging of (some) new CDs is a disgrace. Cardboard sleeves, crappy digipaks, spines that crush easily.

    It's been done for spurious environmental reasons. Thankfully in Japan, they're still using jewel cases and fatboxes.



  • #87
    thereiver
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭thereiver


    I think most young people gen z stream music or watch youtube, i get the impression fans of a a particular band buy cds or vinyl to show loyalty to a singer or group .theres so many ways to listen to music using apps on a phone or tablet , putting a cd into a player feels out of date to me like a ritual . i dont watch much tv live. its easier to stream tv shows anytime i want to watch a certain series.

    tik tok is having a great influence eg people dance to a song and it gets into the charts. Old groups are now getting back to touring because some songs became popular on tik tok. On tik tok an old song can become popular all over again because its a dance trend from someone like charli d,amelio .

    Alot of old 90,s , 2000,s songs have great melodys and hooks which are easy to dance to

    Like rick astley played glastonbury because his song and rickrollling became an internet meme.



  • #88
    JupiterKid
    Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 14,097 Mod ✭✭✭✭JupiterKid


    Thom Yorke of Radiohead - one of the very best bands of the past 30 years - sums up the lamentable current state of the music industry perfectly...

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  • #89
    The J Stands for Jay
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,915 ✭✭✭The J Stands for Jay


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122868206#Comment_122868206

    That is one awful list of bland songs.



  • #90
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122907927#Comment_122907927

    I didn't list them cause I particularly liked them, they were examples of original bands writing original music, in the mainstream, that were hits. Contrast that to post 2010, and you've nothing. I never once rated the quality of those songs, I hate Kings of Leon for example



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  • #91
    The Golden Miller
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,785 ✭✭✭The Golden Miller


    He's actually missing the point. It's right in what he said, but what he alludes to can only happen, when original music reaches the mainstream/the masses. For others to hear it, evolve and grow it.

    People who keep coming back with this "theres good music there of you go looking for it", keep missing the point. You shouldn't have to, it should be in the mainstream. And if it's not, ideas arent being communicated to evolve and push the boundaries of music



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