Irish General Election - Friday, November 29th *Read OP for Mod Warnings*

Course we do. They're paying tax or getting welfare. Either way they're on the books.

Mary Lou's last election as leader I reckon. She's been a liability for ages.

Please Doherty comes to mind.

Very interesting, so it’s a very principled position. Rather vote for someone who’s openly against me than someone who pretends to be with me?

Only thing is it’s a risky position. If you accept the only realistic alternative to FG is SF. They have fairly open and direct policies that they intend within 100 days to make things worse (vs your preferences). Marginal tax rate of over 60% on incomes between €100-€140k. 55.2% on incomes over €140k. Massive increasing in government spending (€30bn more promised than FG or FF over 5 years…or 3 extra children hospitals per year).

So you’re voting something that objectively is the opposite to everything you want to happen, on the hopes it makes FG move right…and get voted back in….in 5 years time? Bold strategy!

But why do they need saving when they know FF will keep FG in government? Unless people think FG are going off a cliff and will only get less than 10 seats?

Harris will be Taoiseach again in 2 years after Martin does his 2 year stint. Wheres the panic coming from?

FF the first out with the "lessons learned".

Tonight on Rte the state broadcaster started with an infograph saying that 15.5% of the population were noncitizens of ireland or immigrants both equated by Katie Hannon in her commentary.

1. Misinformation:

An immigrant is defined as a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country. The 2023 cso states that just 22% of our population were born abroad. Citizenship is acquired in many ways by foreign born people. In 1997 3% of our population was foreign born making our country one of the highest in Europe in terms of demographic change in 25 years. No mention of the importance of integration into irish society.

2. The inforgraph went on to say that IPAS so far this year has taken in 16k people there was no breakdown of the countries these people came from no reference to the surge in numbers from 2019 of 3500 to actually 17k today. There was no reference to acceptance and rejection rates today versus our previous low of 3500 and why a change in policy caused a pull factor.

3. There was no reference to the pull factors created by roderic and his tweets and Helen and her Amnesty on illegal immigrants. No reference to the fact that we are second only to Greece this year in terms of IPAS applicants in Europe per capita despite being on the periphery of Europe.

4. There was not one mention of how much the mismanagement of IPAS has cost the taxpayer in the lifetime of this government. Not one mention of budget figures projected going forward.

Roderic brought out a white paper on ending direct provision which had costings and numbers referenced in it of 3500 going forward and not once was he questioned about this. Not once was the question how have our applications increased by 16,000 in the lifetime of the government. The ukranian figures are completely separate.

5. There was not one reference to the plan on a yearly figure of numbers going forward.

6. To conclude we had a racist attack on a black irish woman after which Katie turned to Peadar and said he has a responsibilty for his raising concerns about immigration because he is supported by racists online. The implication being that Peadar is racist because he is supported by racist. The further implication being that immigration is always good and any irish person who questions immigration policy is as racist as the men who assalted that woman on the luas. We even had the government tds scold and scorn the opposition for voting against the disastrous hate crime legislation which almost inevitably caused the racist attack on the woman sitting in the audience. Who incidentally went off script when she said the government should listen to their own people and hear them in order to curb the divide.

The gaslighting and manipulation the framing of everyone as racist, the reference by an audience member to George Floyd mid show. The only thing missing was a reference to our white privilege ... I sincerely hope the irish public watched the way that entire debate was moderated and concluded.

Remeber to question our immigration policy is racist. Do not ask any questions do not demand any say in policy just accept what your righteous overlords have decided on high must happen for your own good. Pay your taxes and zip it.

Got mine on Friday.

She buried them instead.

Toibin and Fitzmaurice owned her in that debate.

I heard on the radio that FG contacted RTE and told them not to show the Kanturk care worker incident on the news or RTE website. That's very damning.

RTE Radio 1 news after 8 this morning. I am sure many people heard it. Apology expected ya cheeky pup.

Not like RTE to bite the hand that feeds them. Even they must think FG are toast.