Irish General Election - Friday, November 29th *Read OP for Mod Warnings*

Idbatterim

https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2024/11/06/tanaiste-confirms-general-election-will-be-called-by-taoiseach-on-friday/

Taoiseach confirms general election will be held on Friday, November 29th.

Outcome a foregone conclusion... 4more years of ffg. There will still be a housing crisis, disgraceful " infrastructure " , world's most expensive hospital and bike shed... paid for by the Irish elite on 44,000 and over , paying 50c in the euro in direct tax...

Not a single credible party to vote for... options vary from the left , to the far left...

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gameoverdude

If only ffg had a magic money tree and governance in place to stop sexuality exploiting minors.😱

I see sheep

I predict people will vote FFG in then complain for 5 years about what they made happen.

Ardent

I won't be voting this time around.

Normally, I'd say Irish politics is in a very sad state right now, but after seeing what's happened across the water today things could always be worse.

I'll probably just give politics a swerve for the next four years or so.

Damien360

We will hear loads about the intelligent Irish electorate but still we will vote back in the same bunch of clowns. The rest of Europe is swinging away from left wing and Ireland will be paddy last.

Of all the parties, not one can genuinely differentiate from each other. Even SF is a flavour of FF/FG.

The green zealots stand apart with nonsensical policies designed to self destruct an entire economy while the rest of the world picks up that slack and supplies what we lose at our extra cost.

Cluedo Monopoly

So it was Roderic O'Gorman who actually decided the election date despite Harris faking the full term plan (lie) for so long.

Feisar

No one seems to be coming on board with my grand plan of ignoring the establishment and not voting so I'll probably vote for one of the loons as a protest vote this time around. It's a waste of time but I cannot bring myself to vote for SF. And I say that as someone who cannot find a logical reason to argue against the armed struggle.

Padre_Pio

Going to vote for the greens.

For a minority party they achieved a lot. Climate change waits for no one.

MrMusician18

So what happened to the plan to go full term?

Strumms

13 days from calling the election until the election.

That seems from my perspective quite a fast turnaround..given the government didn’t collapse and there hasn’t been any scandal.

All seems a bit rushed. Wonder is that deliberate ? Possibly to disadvantage opposition parties from making much headway ? Hoping people will decide, ‘ better the devil you know ‘.

AMKC

I will not vote for Sinn Fein

Will consider voting for Labour and SDs.

Idbatterim

Yeah I agree with many of you, ill be spoiling the vote or not voting... its a shame. But the options available here are just laughable... there's no accountability, no vision, no plan, just talk , excuses and failure, their experts at that...

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122810872#Comment_122810872

21 days.

Quantum Erasure

voting Social Democrat, and daring them to go in with FFG…

tabby aspreme

Short run in time, with very few radio and television debates or discussions, to limit the opportunities for opposition candidates to get airtime.

Trampas

At least we won’t have to look at the posters for long.

Will people who choose not to vote will you complain about the next government whoever they are?

Mr. teddywinkles

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122810823#Comment_122810823

Irish politics is about picking the least useless. Thats it

twinytwo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122810865#Comment_122810865

Misinformation - you know that thing the government are so against but continually peddle in themselves 😂

Big Bag of Chips

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122810895#Comment_122810895

Why would you spoil your vote? People seem to think this is some protest and that the spoiled votes are analysed and that the politicians will learn some valuable lesson from the spoils.

A spoiled vote is put in a bundle of other spoiled votes and the counting of valid votes continues. A deliberately spoiled vote and an accidentally spoiled vote are treated exactly the same. Put to the side and totted up.

Although if you write something very original and witty you might at least get the count staff a giggle.

If you are not going to vote, then you're better off not voting.

titan18

Can't vote unfortunately as away (have had holiday for a few weeks in November booked since April).

Bit of a joke that there's no alternative other than voting in person on the day itself

twinytwo

I fully expect FF/FG to be back in power after the election. Id settle for the greens being gone and the likes of Paul Murphy and Mick Barry thrown out of the dail.

salmocab

so long as they sort housing I’ll be happy, I feel the people who have consistently not sorted it are the ones to sort it this time.

gmisk

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122810872#Comment_122810872

It's been hinted at heavily for ages, plus FG/FF looked at polls, pretty sensible decision from their pov.

felonious_Gru

I'll vote for the local reliable, accessible but unexciting independent TD and leave it at that , not voting FF or FG

prunudo

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122810788#Comment_122810788

Please use your vote, even if you think its pointless or your candidate won't get in. All not doing so does, is make the main parties and their advisors even more arrogant and think they are invincible and they'll be returned to power regardless.

Change will happen but it will be slow, have faith.

pjohnson

Always find it funny people claim theres no alternative party to suit them must be some pretty niche views if theres nothing between People Before Profit and The National Party that caters to them.

I see sheep

Spoiling your vote is a disgrace imo.

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122811147#Comment_122811147

Politics in democracies around the world is basically this.

Peregrinus

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2058379711/taoiseach-confirms-general-election-will-be-held-on-friday-november-29th-election-campaign

It's amusing to see people complain about high rates of income tax and then glide seamlessly into a whinge about all the Irish parties being left or far left.

Overall Ireland is taxed about about the average level for an OECD country but, by comparison with others, we have high income taxes and low capital taxes.

This is the opposite of a left-wing stance. It penalises acquiring prosperity through labour and favours acquiring prosperity through capital. It's highly capitalist; about as unsocialist a tax policy as you can imagine.

International observers note that Ireland has been characterised by a succession of right-of-centre governments literally since the foundation of the state. Power has alternated between two right-of-centre parties; no left-of-centre party has never been more than a junior partner in a coalition. We have literally never had a left-of-centre government, or a government led by a left-of-centre party. We are probably the only democracy in Europe of which this can be said. Hence our distinctly right-wing tax policies.

If you don't like the tax system that is the result of a century of right-of-centre governments, then maybe consider a left-of-centre government? But it's going to be hard to do that if you delude yourself into thinking that the governments we've had all along are left-wing, and that we have left-wing tax policies.

Peter Flynt

We know what the result will be - A FF/FG govt with a smaller party.

So struggling to understand the point in voting.

Allinall

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122811346#Comment_122811346

That doesn't make any sense.

It's people voting that decides the government.