Israel are going to start WWIII

Ok thanks, I figured it was the people using it thinking they were making some sort of edgy point by regurgitating what they've seen on Twitter.

Yeah smacks of 'look over there' which we have seen once or twice since this latest round kicked off

But that's my point i.e. how things have completely changed in the last 20 or 30 years. In the past, the western governments and the MSM would have been able to protect Israel and portray them as the good guys and 'the only democracy in the Middle East' etc.

But access to multiple forms of visual media in 2024 allows people in the West to see that they are not the good guys at all and probably were always a terrorist and apartheid state (long before October 7th).

Sure they just disappear when the going gets tough and don't answer any hard questions. A sure sign.

In other news, a third of Jewish American teens sympathetic to Hamas… Damn anti-semite hating semites supporting semites that want to kill semites....

I'm getting confused here!!

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/one-third-american-jewish-teens-say-they-sympathise-hamas-israeli-government-poll-shows

When you put it that way, it certainly makes a point. Agreed.

On the other hand, if by any chance Netanyahu would end up on Irish soil, I can imagine the rivers of sweat running down of the two heroes insisting on his arrest. In this world nothing is black and white, unfortunately, we have to dig through many layers of grey..

Edit: I would bet my hardly earned 20 that he would come and leave without a bother. I never bet, but this would be a safe win..

I bet he won't risk it. Bibi is a coward who wouldn't go to any country that doesn't give him iron clad guarantees he won't be arrested.

The chances of Netanyahu landing on Irish soil are slim to none**.

He wouldn't come to Ireland because he knows he'd be arrested, the Govt. would certainly not issue him an invite (other than to arrest him), and he has no reason to be here (unless he wants to be arrested).

Note that the UK have stated they fully comply with the ICC and its rulings etc.. So much so, they have enshrined that fact into their own domestic legislation. If he lands in the UK, he will be arrested.

** It is of course possible that if he were to fly to the US and there were technical difficulties, his plane might be diverted to an ICC signatory. That would be a very interesting scenario (unless it was Hungary of course).

Even if it can claimed that we can't be entirely clear what we are looking at when watching buildings being blown up, the videos of Gaza city looking like Berlin in May 1945 speak for themselves - the entire city has been levelled by the regime, virtually nothing is left standing.

The idea that they were targeting Hamas members only is clearly a bare faced lie by the terrorist entity known as the IDF. They have completely flattened the city and left it uninhabitable (population of the city was 750,000 in 2023).

I'm surprised we haven't had any pseudo-intellectual responses to this yet, no doubt she got what she deserved in the minds of a certain posters here anyway.

So you're happy to dismiss footage of the IDF blowing up houses, schools, hospitals, sniping women and children, nuns, sheep. Let's not forget them parading around in underwear they've stolen from Palestinian woman. Any of that credible for you?

Unbelievable this post ,has the feeling of we did it but we were only following orders, now where did we hear that before?????

It's beyond "soldiers behaving incorrectly" with the IDF unless you think war crimes like mass murder and raping prisoners is acceptable. People on this thread aren't plucking random videos either, it's a pattern of behavior that the IDF consistently engage in. You might be ok with this but most sane people aren't.

No I don't think mass murder and raping prisoners is acceptable.

I am saying that all militaries behave incorrectly in conflict but I do not think it's indicative of the wider military culture of whatever nation that is in some conflicts.

I am talking on an individual basis here, not the overall willingness of the Israeli state to kill civilians as a whole to achieve unachievable war aims.

Is the Israeli state too accepting of civilian casulties? 100%. Is the Israeli state too willing to accept mass civilian casulties to kill one person, cell, or piece of infrastructure? Also 100%.

Is the IDF a rabid bloodthirsty mob that seeks to kill civilians for the pure sake of killing civilians and promotes or endorses same? I don't think so.

There is a war between Hamas and Israel. It's not conventional but it's there.

I don't have any justification for the disparity in deaths between Gazans and Israeli's, nor have I ever tried to justify same, other than a) Israel has a high-tech army and b) IDF/Israel Government seems to be very readily accepting of mass civilian casulties in pursuit of their war aim.

Are you talking about me? Where did I say anything remotely like that?

Is the IDF a rabid bloodthirsty mob that seeks to kill civilians for the pure sake of killing civilians and promotes or endorses same? I don't think so.

Snipers killing nuns and sheep, and drone operators shooting children who were already victims of bombings are patterns of behavior no matter how much you try to dress it up with excuses. There have been countless videos of IDF personnel gloating about destroying infrastructure and killing Palestinians but I guess you just see these as a few 'bad eggs' and nothing to be overly concerned with.

Not so sure what you mean by that. And not too sure why that kind of question landed as an answer to my post?