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Irish General Election - Friday, November 29th *Read OP for Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,376 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    How do they have 'higher entitlements ' then Irish workers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,228 ✭✭✭✭Seathrun66


    What higher entitlements? Accredited source please.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,982 ✭✭✭Sunny Disposition


    Clare Daly and Mick Wallace are apologists for Putin, among the most pro-Russian politicians in western Europe at a time when Russia is committing war crimes almost daily in Ukraine, constantly targeting civilians.

    Then you have Gerry Hutch, one of the most notorious figures in organised crime in Ireland.

    These are my top three, but there may be other candidates.

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,240 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    Simon Harris & Micheal Martin & Roderic O'Gorman

    - won't take responsibility for the housing crisis, planning debacles, crimewaves, childers hospital costs, transport issues, understaffed defence forces, cost-of-living, young folk emigrating…

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 561 ✭✭✭CliffHangeroner


    Roderic O'Gorman, Helen McEntee, Mary Lou and finally Simon Harris.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 56,276 Mod ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Mod: Threads merged



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Depressing times really that we don't have a party who can deliver an economic plan with transport and housing at the forefront without past baggage. What a disaster of a country.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,073 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    It's tinkering with bands that has not even kept up with rampant inflation.

    The marginal rate of income tax (USC+PRSI) remains at 52% on thresholds that aren't very high.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,833 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Now we're talking, time for some wild, uncosted promises. 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,753 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Trying desperately to think of where Leitrim's Luas would run.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,833 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    Carrick-on-Shannon to Carrick-on-Shannon, via Carrick-on-Shannon, thing would be about 300m long



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,753 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    As long as it includes at least two new bridges over the Shannon, I'm onboard.

    It would then count as Roscommon's Luas as well I guess.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Ah now, surely you would run it the 20km out to Arigna mines to encourage the tourism.

    Down in Kerry, a Luas for the Ring of Kerry would be on the cards, but it would have to give way to the Healy-Rae horse-drawn carraiges.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,311 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    It's actually sobering the mess this country is in tbh

    Budget surplus, record employment levels, etc.. yea, the country is fucked!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,654 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    This reminds me of America and why they voted back Trump, the American people kept being told their economy is guns blazing but you're average man on the street saw no difference and in fact they were in a worse state now compared to 4-5 years ago.

    It's the same in Ireland, most people don't see the benefits of "budget surplus or "record employment" because cost of living is destroying those benefits. Many young people want to settle down and raise a family but they look at the costs involved and the shambolic housing crisis and they ask themselves why am I in this country that doesn't care about working class people and end up emigrating.

    God help if you're seriously sick because you'll be on a trolley waiting to be seen and this doesn't include the GPs retiring and doctors getting qualified in Ireland end up leaving, our health is at breaking point

    Illegal Immigration, spending billions on people who are benefit tourists and have no right to be here. Wouldn't it nice to spend this money on making the Irish peoples lives better instead of spending near 500k on a modular home?

    It's a melting pot of issues and could fall like a deck of cards if one of the big multi nationals leave because of Trump

    I dont know about you, but I look back 4-5 years and ask myself am I better off now and for me the answer is certainly no and would suspect it's the same for a lot of citizens.

    So i'll be standing by my post, this country is a mess



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,211 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Including, in one case, an SF candidate… who got elected.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,965 ✭✭✭its_steve116




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 72,753 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Broad church of the bonkers, which would include some far right.

    Their MEP sits as centre left!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,833 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,350 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Simon Harris has done a few interviews now and I notice he will not take responsibility for anything. Even the stuff he was directly involved in e.g. Scoliosis and Children's Hospital. I find it disconcerting when a politician cannot own past mistakes in any way. Did he get too much criticism as a child?

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I am better off than I was 4-5 years ago.

    I have also seen my children's generation start buying houses en masse. Yes, there are a few of them out there, on cruises, out every weekend, enjoying their money, and complaining about no house, but they are the exception, even though they are the loudest. If you are 17, go to college, work hard, put your head down, save hard, then you will get a home, just like everyone did in the past.

    Spending billions on benefit tourists is just a racist lie, by the way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Are you implying that for the people who cannot afford to buy houses it's simply down to their own fecklessness?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,654 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    You beat me to that question.

    It has to be wilful ignorance, it has to be

    I'm afraid, billions is the correct figure. All that money is going to pay for hotels, purchase sites, build modular homes, benefits etc etc you think that monopoly money pays for this?

    You know the state spent €2.63m per day in 2024 to accommodate International Protection applicants, it's absolute mad money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    There have always been some people that could not afford to buy houses, but for every generation that has bought houses, they have had to make sacrifices.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    So what percentage of those who are living in hotels, modular homes, on benefits etc. fall into the category of benefit tourists?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Say you are a young worker, you want to spend the rest of your life here, taking a significant hit to your living standard, to pay for world class welfare, insane government spending, rd world transport. This is one of the reasons, the marginal rate of tax, is so insane, over such a pittance, to fund this! You will never be comfortable in this country, unless you are a SERIOUSLY high earner, I mean 200k plus, which wouldnt be deemed a seriously high earner in other countries, but certainly would here…

    Like when I look at young people graduating now , I think they would honestly be clowns to stay here. You going to live in some one horse Irish town (cork, galway etc) or Dublin (which is a small city, but obviously massive compared to the other towns here) you are going to live at home, or be fleeced on rent and cost of living, work for irish wages, which are for the most part, quite low. Then as soon as you start earning anything above a low amount, half your effort goes to waste… My point is, peoples expectation on living standards here are incredibly low, if they dont realise the living standard here V what you would have in the states, Australia etc, on proper incomes I am referring to mainly. Your effort is so massively penalised here over a very low level, then everything is a rip off…

    You are effectively taking a significant hit to your living standards, to boost others, many who will never work a day in their life, effectively to your living standard, or potentially higher than yours! AND YOU ACTUALLY WORK!!!

    no medical card, no endless free welfare bonuses, free luxury housing for many… I mean there is so much freebies out there, i cant even keep track… There are significant living standard differences in pretty much every other country on the planet, your effort, relatively closely corresponds to your outcome… not in Ireland…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,654 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Vast majority of them because most of them come from safe countries.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    LOL! youll get a home in you work hard on a minimum wage job will you? this "work hard" is the biggest load of BS Ive heard, "work hard" in the right area, where there is money, these days everything is so outrageously expensive, the days of not thinking ahead, thinking "that 30k job a year will be fine" … Not any more, I hope many have wealthy parents if thats what they are thinking…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,849 ✭✭✭Brussels Sprout


    Yeah they just need to stop buying those cappuccinos and avocado on toasts right?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    of course, sure they have only got up about ten percent in the year…



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