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Current Trending 'X'/twitter eXodus | Where to? Bluesky, Threads, Mastodon or alternative?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭corkie


    I knew when opening the thread that the main eXodus was to 'Bluesky' and it was even trending on 'Threads' as well. But didn't want to limit this thread to just Bluesky. Came across this on 'Threads', to lazy to search for it on alternative platforms.

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    Source: - https://www.threads.net/@brittainforsenate/post/DClM4-qOuZy

    As two people posted about embed clips from Bluesky and I tagged mike on here. And tonight I posted a request in the 'Just bugs / missing functionality reports - no griping' thread. If your interested in him doing/attempting it. Maybe give the post a thank.To show how many are interested in it happening. Here is the link to that post!

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    Bluesky has overtaken Mark Zuckerbergs Threads with the number of active users in the US, despite the headstart that Threads had.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,072 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    That's a bit misleading. When there is a huge spike in interest that is going to correlate with a spike in active users. I'm sure when Musk bought twitter the graph for Mastodon would have looked similar. Mastodon is still as irrelevant as it was before twitter takeover. The interest didn't last.

    The question is if that increased level of engagement can be sustained for BS.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 775 ✭✭✭Rugbyf565


    it’s unbelievably over for zuckdog and Elon. Us woke un-brain rotted snowflakes win!



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    mastodon never started to take off in the same way as bluesky did though. you need momentum for this sort of thing, and it's momentum which mastodon never even started to enjoy.

    one of the main metrics for people is 'how many of my buddies/people i follow' are on it, and mastodon never crossed any useful threshold there.

    FWIW, i'm not saying BS is going to continue its meteoric rise.



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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,607 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Time will tell. I think the elevation of Musk and the election result are the things that are going to really fuel Bluesky. Mastodon never really had that advantage. It's only quite recently that we've really seen Musk properly advance the enshittificaton of X.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    one thing that has helped, according to friends, is the starter pack idea. i've been on bluesky a while, and it was quiet for ages; again, a lack of momentum to bring me back regularly. following a curated starter pack meant that a lot of the legwork of finding people to follow - thus creating activity in your feed you found engaging, and would bring you back regularly - was solved quite quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Yeah, Mastodon never really gained any serious traction - the fact that its decentralised and has separate instances wasn’t really user friendly. When signing up you were asked which server you wanted to join, which is confusing for anyone wanting to just sign up and go, and made mass migration difficult as people might join different servers.

    Bluesky doesn’t have that problem, it’s much easier to use from the off. The more major users/businesses it can get in the short term is important - people will go where the people they want to follow are.

    Twitter/X will still be around for sure, especially as Musk essentially has his hand in the governments wallet, any losses feel irrelevant right now.

    Bluesky is really a breath of fresh air, though. I had forgotten what social media was like pre-algorithm, when you could stumble upon something cool that you were interested in, instead of shoving stuff in your face to drive engagement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,072 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Which again speaks to the reasons why people are moving to BS. The presidential election is the catalyst for the move and in the broadest sense those that were on "Team Harris" no longer want to be on a platform owned by a political opponent. A valid reason, but be honest about it.

    Arguments regarding enshittification or toxicity dont hold up to scrutiny, since the X platform is no more toxic or **** than it was several months ago. The only thing that's changed is Harris lost and Musk is on the Trump train.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,246 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i don't think anyone is arguing against that being a catalyst though.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,072 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    That's a bit of rewriting history there. There was a big migration to mastodon when Musk bought twitter, topping out as 2.5m users within a couple of weeks.

    The migration failed because the network effects didn't materialise. That and some servers being moderated by people that were wor than the worst of boards mods. People post for validation and engagement and without mass you don't get any of that. Twitter has a huge user base, though it's questionable about how many are active and real.

    Maybe this migration will be more successful but if the site doesn't quickly become engaging for those that have opened accounts it will end up like Mastodon, a flash that burned out quickly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    There is a lot of negativity and even name-calling here towards the exodus from Twitter/X.

    Surely competition between social networks is a good thing? -Users don't benefit from a monopoly.

    You believe that users are "Flouncing from the public square" by speaking on a different social network? -To use your Americanised argument, it is more "freedom of speech" to be allowed to speak where you want.

    Dont think that Bluesky will become popular? -Thats fine. Just let it be and see what happens. Its good to try new things and see if they work rather than stagnate with the old.

    Naysayers said that Twitter wouldn't be popular.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    As a person who tried mastodon, Bluesky is not remotely similar as an experience. Political parties weren't jumping on the platform, journalists pretty much abandoned it in a week, I don't think a single notable made the migration.

    This time round, pretty much all the major news sites have started using it. I'm seeing names like Dara O'Briain, Naomi Klein, Mark Hamill etc up there. Similarly King was a big name on Twitter and he's jumped ship, not to Bluesky but I'd say it's likely he'll show up there. That's a very different momentum to Mastodon.

    While you're right that the election made a lot of people jump from Twitter. There's been a pretty consistent growing discomfort with the platform so it's more this acting as a tipping point.

    Personally for me, one of the big things I missed from Twitter was that it acted like an RSS feed in terms of news etc. This effectively replaces that and has the general vibe of Twitter a decade back.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭corkie


    The Starter Packs are great to find people posting content you might be interested in. I only followed all on my first pack I found. Since I have bookmarked ('PushPin' method) a few and revisit them occasionally and look at the posts the pack generates. And only follow based on the content they post.

    It is very easy to generate them. I did test one of the automated process of creating it from the people I follow. I will probably end up deleting it. But some people might like to see the sort of content I get fed on the platform. Doesn't have all my follows. https://bsky.app/starter-pack/corkiejp.bsky.social/3lbboviqvfm2a

    Another interesting pack is this (posted about in the 'X' thread)!

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    https://go.bsky.app/7ZiGEcP

    With this sort of movement of 'X', I don't see how the trend to BlueSky could fail. Think I mentioned it before, The Irish Examiner is sharing more on it as well now with a good article from miseanja.bsky.social ~ Her account.

    https://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/outdoors/arid-41520155.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=bluesky

    If your interested in the possibility of seeing 'Bluesky' embed posts on boards, maybe give this post a thank in feedback thread. Thanks to the 6 people who already have.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,702 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Well there's confrontational and then there's, frankly, mentally disturbed folk that are only interested in filling space with lies and bullshit in an effort to wind people up. They're not the same thing.

    That being said, I never had a twitter account, although I followed certain people on it. But it never struck me a platform that was conducive to a good discussion or argument. It's really just a glorified shout box that doesn't really lead anywhere and in recent times it's become impossible to follow someone without having an account because of Musk's interference, so I just stopped. Some of those accounts have now moved over to Bluesky, like scarred for life or Mark Kermode, so I tune into them over there.

    Bluesky looks like twitter in it's early days, but it still doesn't look like it's a place for a good discussion either. But, by all accounts, it seems like a more pleasant place than what twitter has devolved into.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,579 ✭✭✭McFly85


    Short form social media(and probably social media in general) has never been a place for serious discussion, at best it’s people posting links and videos that match their opinions as some sort of proof of how right they are.

    It’s typically promoted as such by people who have extreme views without any basis in reality. They have no other real platform to voice their opinion so when people decide to not listen to them anymore(because it’s frankly exhausting), it’s followed by derision, accusing people of only wanting an echo chamber, or claiming all social media is horrible so what’s the point etc etc etc.

    Bluesky reminds my of what I used to like about social media. It tells me about things I’m interested in because I’ve told it I’m interested in it. It doesn’t decide that I should see something entirely outside of that. I’ve blocked MAGA en masse not because I don’t want to hear different opinions than mine but I don’t want to get my political news or discussion from social media. There’s far better places to get differing views.

    Twitter years ago was a great place to find people or experts in fields you’re interested in, and I hope Bluesky can do something similar.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,085 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass


    "Twitter is just a giant machine for churning out assh0les"

    Nick Cave's quote from his book with Sean O'Hagan.

    In time I wouldn't anticipate any new networks to be any better



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Twitter back in it's good days was actually great for organising political action. A lot of marriage referendum and repeal campaign work was organized, I wouldn't say they amounted to political extremists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,702 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Yeah, the "Short form" arena, as you call it, has never really been of any interest to me. There's just no meat on its bones as far as I'm concerned. But Twitter has always been a place that's akin to someone opening a door and shouting their nonsense into the room, then buggering off.

    That's not discussion or debate. It's not even conversation.

    A lot of people have said to me that they use it to find out certain things or to follow certain people. But I've never really been that interested in following people and anything I want to find out I can by a simple Google search most of the time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,072 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    Good for organising political action or is that actually good for organising political action that you support?

    Many American conservatives would say it is still very good for organising political action.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭corkie


    Big EU news. On mobile so a raw post. Post edited to make it look better.

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    https://euroblog.jonworth.eu/ursula-von-der-leyen-now-officially-on-bluesky-and-some-lessons-so-you-can-trust-what-you-read-on-that-network/

    Above article had an error in the domain handle and I couldn't verify it because the DNS record hadn't activated! And shared it wrongly on 'Xitter'!

    https://bsky.app/profile/vonderleyen.at.ec.europa.eu

    My tweet thread on it.

    And not first time I tweeted the MEPs!

    Sorry for embedding an 'X' link in this thread!

    Post edited by corkie on

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,039 ✭✭✭SchrodingersCat


    Twitter back in its good days was decent for research work too. There were many experts in fields present, posting papers and links to interesting work. Comments were mostly worth reading and civil.
    However this degenerated to the point of it nearly being unusable. Influx of Bots, removal of moderation, removal of blocking tools, quacks, trolls, and American political adverts and their culture war bs swamped anything worthwhile.

    I’ve seen some of these researchers pop up again on Bluesky, so hopefully that continues.



  • Posts: 436 ✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I meant confrontational as in hostile.

    I love Scarred for Life and Mark Kermode. 😊



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭corkie


    Post edited by corkie on

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,563 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    They're compliant with the law on it which is all that really matters. More the BBC making a mountain out of a molehill.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 29,531 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Why on earth would they? 13 is the legal minimum age for such services (as completely and utterly pointless as that is).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,382 ✭✭✭corkie


    They are not a large enough platform at present so wouldn't require to abide by DSA.

    But with recently updated online safety rules, going to be more stricter with age verification to protect minors.

    ⓘ "At some point something inside me just clicked and I realized that I didn't have to deal with anyone's bullshit ever again."
    » “mundus sine caesaribus” «



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,606 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    just set up a bluesky account 2 days ago, haven't followed anyone or posted, liked, or shared anything yet. got two bot followers already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 260 ✭✭Baseball72


    I am gradually moving to Bluesky. As before, I will seek to follow folks / organisations on Bluesky whom I would not necessarily agree with or sit down and have a coffee with. It's important to listen to other views and for a dialogue to be conducted with respect - that has been near impossible on X recently.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,702 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    Have you checked out the podcast for SFL? Some interesting stuff. Be warned, it's very nerdy. 😉

    https://shows.acast.com/scarred-for-life



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