Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

What is the limit we have? So here we have the crux of the problem. If 5 million people were to arrive here we'd be obligated to process them all. If after the process all were legitimate we'd be obligated to look after them.

Btw I never asked you what the max number would be acceptable under law. I'm aware successful asylum applicants become refugees and unsuccessful almost never get deported.

The above is exactly why we need law's to be changed in Ireland. Put the vote to the people on such an important issue. What are the establishment so scared of?

The legislator changes the laws, I'm sure they're not afraid of anything, when did you ever vote on the laws in this country?

That's not how it works, you vote for government, they bring in the laws.

In order to change the law, people need to get onto their local TD. I cannot see a time when Ireland reneges on their obligations under the Geneva convention however.

Irish homeless charities have numerous hotel rooms booked every night. Sometimes they pay for them and they remain empty. There are also homeless hostels provided for homeless people.

Homelessness is not just as simple as people not having somewhere to sleep, there are numerous factors at play.

It's not at all that foreigners get more then Irish people, that's just not true.

Personally I feel we should try to emulate Finland, but of course we have a massive housing crisis

https://thebetter.news/housing-first-finland-homelessness/

Yeah, a lot of actual street sleepers don't want to sleep in hostels, either they're afraid because of violence and drug use, or they don't want to sleep in them because they can't use drink or drugs and a lot of street sleepers are addicts.

Some are couples and don't want to stay apart in hostels, or they have pets which aren't allowed. I guess some just feel safer in a doorway that they are used to.

Its very complex and extremely sad. They need a place of their own really.

My understanding is that Georgians would claim asylum, get free food and accommodation and work on the sites off the books and then after six months get a work permit.

This was one of the cases that highlighted how utterly broken our system is.

Some posters seem gung ho on the idea of sending Ukrainian males eligible for military service back home.

I get it. We have all seen the videos of them driving around in expensive cars.

Ironically though they'd be about the only group that would actually lose their lives from such an action.

The Ukrainians in general are women and children.

I honestly believe they are the only group and I mean the only group in Ireland in danger.

I get people saying they need to defend their country but again they're the only ones in danger

It is 100% true that foreigners get more than Irish people.

Irish person: Has to phone a number nightly to see if there is room. Get room for night. Has to leave in the morning, no matter what the weather is like. Mainly outsourced to charities.

Foreigner, let’s say Ukrainian: Gets room long term. Does not have to leave every morning. Get food, drink, amenities. Can come and go as they please. Provided by government.

But are these homeless Irish being put into hostels while the others are being put into hotels.

Their is a huge difference between staying in a hostel compared to having a hotel room for safety reasons.

It's understandable why someone sleeping rough would not stay in a hostel, they would jump at the chance of a warm hotel room every night and food and a TV to watch.

My understanding of these hostels is, you stay in a shared room probably with an addict and are kicked out in the morning to the streets to go back in again that night.

Stand for election on that platform. See how you get on.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/staggering-incompetence-anger-just-over-34152433

Government have still only deported 100 people this year 👎

There will be many floating voters who think FF FG deserve another chance to get the asylum problem right. This would be a big mistake.

So you want to take scarce Gardai off the streets and away from dealing with serious and violent crime, to try and deport asylum seekers who live here peacefully and either are working or want to work?

Hotels are not hosting active addicts.

It's not happening for obvious reasons.

Also Our council spent millions acquiring 2 guest houses for this purpose.

So the idea money isn't being spent is nonsense.

That's even before you consider the billions being spent on outsourcing the problem to charities.

Are you saying everyone who is homeless is an addict?

Their are many people who end up on the streets or living in a car for a load of different reasons.

Wow so the government spent millions on our own in comparison to what is it going to be 2 billion this year on asylum seekers.

Their are many people in broken relationships who can't leave because they have nowhere to live.

These people should be showed the same compassion as people who never contributed a cent towards the country.

If you offered a run down hotel obscene money to do it up and host Irish homeless people then they would be several people stepping up to get paid.

City West was a lovely well known hotel which hosted international competitions and it will never return to be a hotel again, because they are being guaranteed a fortune to host asylum seekers.

If the government pay the money then Irish people could be housed in hotels.

Unfortunately they are wrote off as addicts who don't want to be saved.

Yes, they do