Ireland's Refugee Policy cont. Please read OP before posting

You're in favour of special treatment for 'ethnic Irish' and proud of it and claim others of proudly seeking such treatment too.

I'm Irish and am definitely not proud of the stuff you're spouting.

An Offaly TD has called for “full transparency” in regard to those making “millions” from “profiteering” on the provision of asylum accommodation in Ireland – adding that Ireland was following the “disastrous” path seen across Europe regarding the “increasing ghettoization of immigrant communities”.

We've said it countless and countless times in this thread but if we dont learn from the likes of Sweden we'll just end up repeating their utter failure but yet our Government are blindly following.

“The trajectory is clear. With a projected annual influx of 15-20,000 international protection applicants, Ireland is on course to replicate the disastrous and socially divisive experiences seen across the European continent with respect to the increasing ghettoisation of immigrant communities,” she said.

“What I mean by this is that we are inevitably going to see a growth in what is often termed ‘parallel societies’ existing side by side with the majority Irish population. No country of our size has demonstrated any meaningful success in terms of integrating tens of thousands of international protection applicants,” the Independent TD added.

“Large countries such as Germany and France have been struggling with this for years now. What hope is there that we will somehow, against all the odds, achieve a different outcome?

“I have yet to hear any credible rationale from Government that Irish communities will be immune from this phenomenon. I spoke today about Ballaghaderreen and what is happening there. It is a community with a population of 2,400, of which 39 per cent are foreign nationals. That kind of ratio points to enormous and almost irreconcilable difficulties regarding the likelihood of successful integration,” she added.

Deputy Nolan really echo's alot of thoughts on this. There's no integrating IPAs; you're fooling yourself if you think otherwise, and we've seen this repeatedly across Europe. Why would Ireland be any different?

I have alot of time for Deputy Nolan, very impressive when it comes to immigration and I would love to see her on "Upfront with Katie Hannon" next week but RTE would never allow that

I knew of the Ballaghaderreen situation but wasnt aware of the percentage mark, that's frightening tbh. It's no wonder there's uproar. Wasn't Ballaghaderreen a beacon of integration? Well that didnt last long!!! It's sickening to see Ballaghaderreen a more than welcoming town back in 2017 being taken advantage of now.

Why the hell are we spending so much money on installing 47 modular homes to cater for more than 200 Ukrainian refugees in Ballaghaderreen when we know this war is not going to last forever, why are you building these homes unless it's a sneaky way to house IPAs down the line.

Genuine question because I don't actually know the answer, I am guessing it's to do with the Geneva convention.

But is it only European countries that have to take asylum seekers.

If we refuse an asylum seeker from Nigeria, why are his country allowed to refuse to take them back into their country?

Most of the failed claimants are coming from countries like Morocco, Turkiye, Georgia… The EU can put plenty of pressure on them to take back their citizens…

I am suggesting max 1% of population as refugees = 50k-55k.

We are already very generous, at 108k:

Our 5.3m people have accepted 108k temporary refugees from UKR.

Italy has 167k.

France has 60k, excluding children.

As a result, I think we have been very generous, even too generous.

The tax payer facing a 48% marginal income tax on below median earnings has spent hundreds of millions on this.

I suggest moving back towards a cap of 1% of population.

How do we remove them? Hire coaches, bring people to airport, fly them to UKR.

Maybe spend money on providing temp accomm in UKR?

Here's some details on the difficulties faced in completing deportations.

https://www.newsweek.com/gop-letter-chinese-migrants-delays-deportation-1924109

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/denied-asylum-but-not-deported-migrants-in-europe-live-in-limbo/2019/08/07/1b9f3082-a4ad-11e9-a767-d7ab84aef3e9_story.html

Of course at the other side of the process AGS also have to bring to custody the person who won't leave voluntarily, which can take a lot of Garda hours.

https://extra.ie/2024/10/07/news/irish-news/failed-asylum-seekers-garda-raids

it must be recognised that those evading deportation, which goes for a significant number of those in the State in possession of DOs, do not make themselves amenable to deportation.’

The note added that capturing the individuals ‘may involve extensive surveillance over days’ for an operation to be successful. It said: ‘GNIB’s experience of seeking to apprehend individuals who have come through the accelerated process may not have been as positive as expected.

Given the shortages the in AGS I can fully understand why the government would be focusing on forcible deporting only those who have committed crimes. Taking Gardai off the streets and away from tackling violent and serious crime, to deport people who are otherwise living peacefully and often working, makes no sense imho.

Obviously I was referring to our Government. It’s not like people here are the ones making the decisions

It's gone past the point of waiting or hoping that the countries of origin will co-operate.

Fly a plane full of failed AS back to Albania, land the aircraft, put the failed AS on the apron, depart.

Repeat for Georgia, etc.

There are millions of Russians in EU and they still get visas etc

Kick em all out and now you have living space for the millions of refugees Putin is deliberately creating

So if 10 people are approved in an individual basis the total number is 10. This is a terrible attempt at dodging.

The Spanish won't be happy but at least this should take some pressure off us.

Thank you Spain!!!

It will all in tears by the way

Why wouldn't the Spanish be happy?

They are increasing the workforce by almost a million workers over the next 3 years, in an aging country. Doesn't seem like something they wouldn't be happy about.