So "X" - nothing to see here. Elon's in control - Part XXX

Unfortunately, I think they've all ready banned here, for link dumping 😁😋

Cause it's very much so effective and gets the false information to larger audiences

@One eyed Jack and now Musk has been positioned as head of 'The Ministry of Truth' (there may have been copyright issues, so they called it DOGE instead)

'Department of Government Efficiency' hasn't anything to do with online content moderation!

Strange use of that term here, sounds cool, but wrong context for it.

COMISIÚN NA MEÁN and EU DSA have also be labeled as 'The Ministry of Truth'!

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/08/31/eu-creates-ministry-of-truth-to-tackle-fake-online-news/

Found Aodhán Ó Ríordáin MEP aodhanoriordain.bsky.social and SocDems socdems.bsky.social on bluesky last night.

And unlike on 'Xitter' Aodhán has not started to restrict replies yet on his posts.

Sorry didn't realize there is a double interpretation of it.

The Ministry of Truth (Newspeak: Minitrue) is the ministry of propaganda. As with the other ministries in the novel, the name Ministry of Truth is a deliberate misnomer because in reality, it serves the opposite: It is responsible for any necessary falsification of historical events. However, like the other ministries, the name is also apt because it decides what "truth" is in Oceania.

As well as administering "truth", the ministry spreads a new language amongst the populace called Newspeak, in which, for example, "truth" is understood to mean statements like 2 + 2 = 5 when the situation warrants. In keeping with the concept of doublethink, the ministry is thus aptly named in that it creates/manufactures "truth" in the Newspeak sense of the word. The book describes the doctoring of historical records to show a government-approved version of events. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ministries_in_Nineteen_Eighty-Four#Ministry_of_Truth

EU Supported Propaganda vs. Musk 'Xitter' Propaganda

But still don't see what 'DOGE' has to do with online content and is more about making the US Government efficient.

Also it is an advisory board and actually not a Gov Dept as the name suggests?

President-elect Donald Trump said Tuesday that he was appointing the two businessmen to jointly head up the advisory board to suggest spending cuts, target regulations for elimination and put forward ideas to restructure federal agencies. Musk and Ramaswamy have called for sweeping changes to federal programs, such as mass layoffs and deep cuts. ~~ From your NBCnews link.

Edit: -

"No, the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) announced by President-elect Donald Trump is not equivalent to a "Ministry of Truth." The comparison to a "Ministry of Truth" likely refers to the fictional government department in George Orwell's novel "1984," which was responsible for propaganda and historical revisionism. DOGE has a very different stated purpose." Source

I already gave you just one example of Musk using Twitter to spread false information about NGOs which, if DOGE ever becomes an actual Government Department (and not just another wind-up attempt), it’s not difficult to see what their recommendations will mean for the US (which has nothing to do with the EU in this instance). The reason I said it doesn’t exist is because it doesn’t exist, though not for the want of trying:

The panel, which is called DOGE for short in a nod to an internet meme and cryptocurrency, won’t be an official federal department unless Congress passes a law to create it. Trump set a deadline of July 4, 2026, for the commission to complete its work.

(from the same link)

As example where X is now different to twitter:

The notion that gatekeeperless citizen journalism can replace actual journalism is so stupid I can't believe it doesn't get laughed out of the room.The idea is literally, "an event happens, users say **** about it, and if they lie, other users call them out on it!"That's not how ANYTHING works.

Example:

Step 1: A blue tick engagement farmer with 1 million followers sees something on 4chan that aligns with the priors of his fans, tweets it out uncritically.

Step 2: People with basic research skills or common sense point out that the photo he purports to be from today's flooding in Ohio is a 2004 image from Lahore.

These replies get hidden or buried under algorithmic ally boosted blue tick Nazis blaming immigrants for rising flood waters.

Step 3. A community note emerges correcting the record, is fought over viciously while hidden and MAYBE achieves consensus three hours after the tweet has largely stopped appearing in people's feeds.

Step 4. The engagement farmer either doubles down, QT'ing the community note and calling it liberal elitist gatekeeping, simply ignores it, or deletes their tweet knowing that by then everyone has already seen it.

Step 5. Back to step 1, but with 20,000 new followers and a dumber discourse.

- Dmitry Grozoubinski

My issue with your post is the use of 

'The Ministry of Truth'

 in connection with him or 'Xitter'.
…

So 'DOGE' or 'Xitter' are not examples of 'The Ministry Of Truth'.

DOGE is absolutely akin to the idea of the Ministry of Truth, because the head of the Government Department would be spreading false information and propaganda, like claiming that NGOs are an illegal arm of Government, while his own companies are receiving billions in Federal funding.

The whole point of 1984 was the doublespeak, or Newspeak, with the intent of controlling how the population thinks (or rather - doesn’t think, because they have lost the ability to think), and the effects of that on society, in this particular context - the US.

Calling it the ‘Department of Government Efficiency’ is a perfect example of Newspeak, and using Twitter to promote false information is a perfect example of the Ministry of Truth.

In the book, the protagonist was employed at the Ministry of Truth to come up with false information, that was literally his job, much like Musk inviting people with ‘super high IQ’ to apply for a job that pays nothing, but they’d be doing great things for their country, some shìt like that 🙄

Actually it’s exactly as it’s described in the link you provided:

The use of contradictory names in this manner may have been inspired by the British and American governments; during the Second World War, the British Ministry of Foodoversaw rationing (the name "Ministry of Food Control" was used in World War I) and the Ministry of Information restricted and controlled information, rather than supplying it; while, in the U.S., the War Department was abolished and replaced with the "National Military Establishment" in 1947 and then became the Department of Defense in 1949, right around the time that Nineteen Eighty-Four was published.

Your use of artificial intelligence to support your argument only demonstrates the disadvantages of relying on AI over reading the book and understanding the context of the times in which it was written and what Orwell was saying about Government and society at the time:

In computer science, garbage in, garbage out (GIGO) is the concept that flawed, biased or poor quality ("garbage") information or input produces a result or output of similar ("garbage") quality. The adage points to the need to improve data quality in, for example, programming. Rubbish in, rubbish out (RIRO) is an alternate wording.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage_in,_garbage_out

I’ve no interest nor desire to argue with a bot. If I ever do develop an interest in doing so, then I’ll join Twitter.

It's dangerous. From impacting elections to getting people killed.

We require laws to make people wear seatbelts in cars - that's the level we are at.

Many aren't mentally equipped to deal with sophisticated disinformation. Some of it is very potent and it absolutely works.

Some don't realise the extent to which they have already been impacted, taught to blame problems on "the other side", manufactured culture wars, division, sowed doubt, firehose of falsehood, etc.

Twitter before had issues, but at least they were making an effort, now under Musk forget about it, it's an open sewer. For example, the stabbing incident happened in Dublin, I looked it up on Twitter on the day, scrolled through hundreds of identical posts spamming the same false info about the perpetrator and the attacks within minutes, all identical. They were still there an hour later. No attempt to remove or regulate.

Don't remember the other attempts but this time seems to have more impetuous (if correct term)

"We are beginning to see this sort of fragmentation, this diaspora of what used to be a singular platform, into communities split into multiple places," says Mr Tinworth.

So other platforms are gaining traction, not just BlueSky.

Other accounts I came across on bsky.app

rtenews.bsky.social ~~ Not verified as legitimate they signed up and change the handle today. ~ https://clearsky.app/rtenews.bsky.social

Lynn Boylan MEP ~ lnbdublin.bsky.social

Not when the lies are the ones they want to hear.

Don't think the RTE news one is legit. The subheading is "Tiocfaidh ár lá".

I guessed as much and reported it this morning.

No, I get bothered by other people deciding what I can say.

TheGuardian has now got an account on bluesky. Using their domain as a handle.

https://clearsky.app/theguardian.com/lists