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Anyone on here fully licensed w/thermal scope?

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  • #32
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,565 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121948536#Comment_121948536

    No. not for me anyway. I never put the serial number in my applications. Just tick the box for S and fill it in the notes section.



  • #33
    TheEngineer1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 222 ✭✭TheEngineer1


    I inherited a rifle and silecner recently and when applying for it there was a new section in FCA1 asking about attachments, namely silencers or NV/Thermal and a box for a serial number for said attachment.



  • #34
    Gumbo
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,565 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121950786#Comment_121950786

    yep. I’ve never filled them in. I have 2 firearms including one pistol, both with S approved using the new form.



  • #35
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,353 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Only problem with this is that you need a separate restricted licence for your NV.

    True,but whats stops you from applying for one?Doesnt mean you have to have one straight away and collect from the dealers like your gun. Nor does it mean you have to go and lock it up in a safe and upgrade your alarms etc as if it was a restricted gun.It's more correctly an authorisation issued by the CS.

    Then, assuming that you are refused for NV( as has happened in my area on every application that has been made so far in my District),

    Ohhhh!!!!… BLANKET BAN by your CS of "restricted firearms" in his district!… Get a few of your fellow refused together and hightail it to the most litigious solicitor you can find,and instruct him to contact FUNI. We have a very good legal counsel who would enjoy sinking his fangs into this.

    you then have to declare that you were refused a licence when you subsequently apply for any other licences.

    SO??? I have been "refused licenses" over a half dozen times since 2008 and had the same revoked as well…NOT for any wrongdoing on my part or law-breaking.But because of AGS/DOJ smart ideas that backfired on them nationally in the period 2008/16 in district and high courts. I'm quite proud of this fact and enjoy filling in that point on all my license applications.AGS will know damn well if you are some local criminal or other ner do well who was refused or revoked for blaggarding,or whether your refusal was because of the Supers/Chiefs policy[or orders from on high] not to issue!" That is the last thing I would be concerned about in this situation.

    .

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • #36
    Jim3592
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45 ✭Jim3592


    Hi. I had to hand in my thermal scope today because I applied for the licence while I was renewing my gun license. Got a phone call from Garda to say it had to be handed in because it is now unlicensed. I already had a comment on my previous license to grant the use of a NV/ thermal scope which I got three years ago. Not great timing as most farmers in my area are just started lambing and there is a huge issue with Foxes.



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  • #37
    Grizzly 45
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,353 ✭✭✭✭Grizzly 45


    Well done!!!You must be the first person in the history of mankind who had to surrender an optical device that is liscensed as a "firearm" on the entire planet! Now the next thing is to get it back to you where it will be of more use. Seeing that you had permission for it like many hundereds of others here for X number of years.3 in your case,I' d simply re apply and point out you had one for 3 years eith no issues,why would you be refused a liscense now Cheif Super?

    "If you want to keep someone away from your house, Just fire the shotgun through the door."

    Vice President [and former lawyer] Joe Biden Field& Stream Magazine interview Feb 2013 "



  • #38
    trackerman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 524 ✭✭✭trackerman


    One question I still have…

    If a person applies for an Night Vision license, will the 'restricted status' of the NV license carry the requirement for a Monitored Alarm?



  • #39
    otmmyboy2
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 1,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭otmmyboy2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122520638#Comment_122520638

    It isn't a night vision license, it is a license for a restricted firearm, same as if you were licensing a 338 lapua.

    And so like every other restricted firearms license it bumps you into the restricted category of firearms storage if you aren't there already.

    In short, yes.

    Never forget, the end goal is zero firearms of any type.

    S.I. No. 187/1972 - Firearms (Temporary Custody) Order - Firearms seized

    S.I. No. 21/2008 - Firearms (Restricted Firearms and Ammunition) Order 2008 - Firearm types restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2009 - Firearms banned & grandfathered

    S.I. No. 420/2019 - Magazine ban, ammo storage & transport restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2023 - 2023 Firearm Ban (retroactive to 8 years prior)



  • #40
    GaryKE.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭GaryKE.


    Anyone recently filled the form out for a NV scope? Since it has its own license do I need to specify on my gun license that I would be using an NV scope or as long as I have the license I can attach it to any of my rifles?



  • #41
    otmmyboy2
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 1,975 Mod ✭✭✭✭otmmyboy2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/122626004#Comment_122626004

    Nope, just get the license for the NV device and you can then put it on any firearm you are using.

    Never forget, the end goal is zero firearms of any type.

    S.I. No. 187/1972 - Firearms (Temporary Custody) Order - Firearms seized

    S.I. No. 21/2008 - Firearms (Restricted Firearms and Ammunition) Order 2008 - Firearm types restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2009 - Firearms banned & grandfathered

    S.I. No. 420/2019 - Magazine ban, ammo storage & transport restricted

    Criminal Justice (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 2023 - 2023 Firearm Ban (retroactive to 8 years prior)



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  • #42
    Rifter
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 274 ✭✭Rifter


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/121897024#Comment_121897024

    FWIW, I wanted a Clip-on unit, but I didnt want a Restricted Firearms Cert for a piece of equipment that is patently not a firearm.

    So I called DOJ, they actually wouldn't answer my question on the aporopriate licencing. I then called Firearms Policy and was told that both dedicated Thermal/NV Scopes and Clip-On units "that turn scopes into Thermal/NV Scopes" require a Restricted Firearms Cert.

    So I still go with the old fashioned lamp as, while maybe cutting my nose off to spite my face, I am not applying for a Firearms Licence for an optical device that is not a firearm (Yes I am aware they are defined in law as firearms)

    Edit to add

    I have no problem with requiring Authorisation to use NV/Thermal same as a moderator



  • #43
    Paddyviking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Paddyviking


    Just got a reply to my Thermal scope application FCA1.......approved 👍

    So all above board now

    Pv



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  • #45
    Paddyviking
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 160 ✭✭Paddyviking


    HI

    I do a bit of vermin control for a local syndicate so got them to write me a letter to accompany my application

    Application doesn't specify what rifle I'd be using it on but I use it on 3 rifles ( .243, 17hmr & .22 air rifle) via an innomount QR return to zero mount.

    CCost of the new licence is cheap peace of mind if stopped at night by gardai

    pv



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  • #47
    GaryKE.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 307 ✭✭GaryKE.


    Recently got mine, didnt need to give signed forms or anything, just said I have X land to shoot that isnt viable to use a lamp on that is why I am applying for this NV scope. 1month later and restricted license arrived, no calls or interviews asked for.



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