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Election to be called Fri - predict outcome

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,642 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Not an effective leader and not someone it's easy get enthusiastic about.

    She is the difference between me being a definite Labour 1st preference voter and a 50/50 one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,366 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Roderic O'Gorman policy in action;

    RTE news : 'Shocked' woman evicted after travel for husband's care

    http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/1111/1480227-liudmyla-shevchenko/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,551 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Darragh O’Brien certainly making overtures to Labour tonight on Katie Hannon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,353 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    No wonder Harris wanted a short election cycle. FFG are getting mauled.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 767 ✭✭✭ricimaki


    It felt like Darragh was warming up to Labour earlier - I think it's a race between Labour, Greens and Soc Dems for the next government coalition partner - I don't see any 2 parties getting enough votes by themselves. Interesting that the greens aren't represented in this debate…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,642 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    Everyone else is right in the sense that they don't have a record to be proud of.

    A housing special was always going to be a flogging for the current government.

    I did quite like Pascal's little dig about Sinn Fein trying to make it about how they simply care more.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 852 ✭✭✭gossamerfabric


    Everything is her way or the highway. She will stuggle to get elected on a late count and will melt the heads of those she is negotiating with when trying to draw up a program for government. Realpolitik ain't her thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,353 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Rory Hearn looks like the only one who knows what he is talking about

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,621 ✭✭✭Augme


    FG and FF would much prefer Labour as their next partner. Labour will do absolutely anything to get into power and will be happy to adondon all their policies to do so. Imagine what Alan Kelly would do to get a chance a being a Minister again, it's also scary to think about it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,557 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Eh, ffg have broken all their own rules on prudence, also, explain to me, why cutting income related taxes by several billion a year is reckless, when increasing spending by several billion a year, doesn't bat an eyelid. Laughably, I'd actually agree with sf on this, if there are billions of euro to play with, I'd prefer to see it allocated to income tax cuts and abolition of property tax... its that or wasted on one of the other endless black holes here, welfare being their current favourite...



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,790 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    The Greens got in mainly on SF transfers in 2020, SF voters are unlikely to show the Greens the same support in a few weeks time. There is an opportunity for another political party to look "SF friendly" to grab those transfers though

    Harris out in the crescent smiling, laughing and shaking hands, just a few hundred meters from UHL, I hear he got a few "friendly" words from locals and didn't hang about too long



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭DataDude


    SF are not proposing to ‘cut taxes’. They’re proposing to reduce taxes for one cohort of people (that already pay too little) and fund for it by increasing taxes on another cohort (that already pay too much).

    Under SF previous budget a married single income household could face a marginal tax rate of 70% on income between €100 - €140k due to removal of tax credits. It’s lunatic stuff.

    If you think SF would lower government spending on the big ticket items (health, welfare, housing)….lol.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,445 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    And to be honest it was more of a dig at politicians than teachers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    It was a dig at the Green party front and foremost.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭rock22


    After the mauling FF and FG received on Kathy Hannon program on RTE last night, it is very hard to see how anyone concerned about housing could vote for either party.

    I would like to see the opposition parties, SF, Labour , PBP, SD get together with a unified housing policy. I appreciate there is many similarities between them but a single policy they are all committed to would surely defeat FF and FG.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭bren2001


    a single policy they are all committed to would surely defeat FF and FG.

    While it would play well with young voter i.e. those stuck in the renting loop, there are other election issues e.g. childcare, health, education. It likely wouldn't sway my vote in the slightest (albeit, I will be voting for one of those you list anyway). Being realistic, at least one of FFG will be required to form a government (or an ungodly amount of independents).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,551 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Paschal reduced to taking cheap digs at the end was not a great look. O'Brien just came across as somebody desperately trying to spin small improvements and got caught out telling outright porkies a few times.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    O'Brien is no use, sooner he's gone the better from that dept.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,794 ✭✭✭rock22


    I am not one of those younger voters but I will definitely be voting for the party I consider most likely to address this problem successfully. There is a lot of similarity around the proposals from the opposition parties. In particular the big dividing line I see is that the opposition parties want to involve the state, via a housing agency or local government, in the provision of housing while FF and FG still want to rely of the private sector. A private sector who have made it clear that they will do what is profitable for them and are happy to hold off releasing too many houses on to the market to protect price.

    Buth other things can be done. A complete ban on no fault evictions for a start.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,353 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Paschal was very poor. He seemed strangely distracted or tired. He only woke up in order to interrupt O'Broin.

    Darragh was usual his usual arrogant and misleading self. He even took credit for Green policies. Yet again FF could not own their appalling Affordable Houses number (1000, promised 50k). They refuse to acknowledge it.

    Rory Hearne spoke well and knew his stuff.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Rory Hearne is an absolute spoofer, and i say this as someone who hopes the SD do well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭bren2001


    Lots of people are willing to live with the current housing crisis. The left (not that I consider SF left) banding together to develop a unified housing policy wouldn't achieve much. It appeals to people who will already vote for them. If people are unhappy with housing and its important enough to sway the persons vote, I don't see how they would be voting for FFG in the first place.

    People who vote FFG can tolerate the current housing situation (possibly like it) and their priorities lie elsewhere whether that be health, education, decrease taxes, increased welfare etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Housing directly affects both health and education. It should be everyones priority at the moment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Sinn Fein are trying to tell first time buyers that they don't deserve to own their own home outright, and that they must let the government own part of their house into perpetuity and restrict who they can sell to.

    That will go down well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,502 ✭✭✭bren2001


    The point is, it's not everyones priority and having a multi party policy on the left wouldn't lead to more votes, in my opinion.

    I agree it should be high on everyones list.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Abolishing property tax and abolishing USC under €45k are completely reckless policies, depleting the tax base, it is always more difficult to introduce new taxes or reintroduce old taxes than to increase rates, so if there is money for tax reductions, reduce the rates but maintain the base.

    However, as someone who is left of centre, I would much prefer to see surplus money invested for the community into public transport, student accommodation, schools, hospitals etc., where all the people see the benefit. Looks like the Greens are talking my language once again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    I agree, i think the Government has missed a bit of an open goal with the recent budget surplus it has had, and could go back to yesteryear and build build build, and yes, i know there are mitigating factors with resources, cost of materials etc but they have to do something different than what is currently being done.

    They are not hitting any of their targets, and even their targets are considered to be too low.

    *Appreciate it's the Local County Councils who'd need a kick up the hole also(and planning laws although that's an easy fix for a government if they should choose so)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,851 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    It wasn't so long ago that mass emigration resulted in ghost estates and waste of building. Developers, local authorities and the civil service are scarred by that memory. A recession here, thanks to US money going home, with Ukrainians going home could easily create the same scenario.

    Better to spend the surplus on water and energy infrastructure, public transport, schools and hospitals etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,186 ✭✭✭wazzzledazzle


    Gotta do something Blanch, can't be factoring in the "what if's" and let the problem get worse. I'd fathom it's better to have a surplus than a deficit.

    I agree, i wouldn't be giving tax breaks, people (the majority) don't need that extra 20quid a month or whatever it is. Pump it in to infrastructure as you mention. I'd focus on energy personally



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,566 ✭✭✭DataDude


    Quite something to watch people complain about the HSE, which is incredibly well funded, so assumedly horribly inefficient if as bad as people claim, in the same post then push for public sector building to take over from private sector….cause the public sector will be super efficient at that no doubt!



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