Conor McGregor thread (MMA Talk Only - Read 1st Post Before Posting)

The DPP does not take cases on the basis that it's confident it can convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt.

It takes cases where there is sufficient evidence to make a plausible case.

You are somewhat implying that the evidence is there but a jury would just automatically blame the woman anyway regardless of what the actual objective quality of the evidence is.

I do think that is an important distinction and it is no comment whatsoever on McGregor or this case specifically nor am I saying anything other than sexual violence is horrific.

Nope. I don't care what you think. I'm merely defending myself against accusations that I just believe her based in nothing. Everyone can believe what they want to.

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My view of this:

There is no smoke without fire, out of one of his many, many accusations they aren't all gold-diggers, his past history suggests the narcissism.. do I believe her? yes, im sure she was offered a pay off and more than enough to open the salon the defense brings up, 6 years later to go through with it is commendable… But I knew when you pay for the best you get the best, the defense is tearing through her.

Saying she can't remember half the stuff is correct, anyone being in a horrific incident (be it rape or a car crash) you won't remember every detail, only the stuff that sticks. Others then commenting "she did this after" etc.. you are in flight or fight mode, not everyone screams and runs to reception.

The damning evidence is the tampon lodged, nobody can be that kinky…

100% she text for a reason, she knew it's what he does, gets the girls and has a sesh, her intention was yes probably "I was out with conor on a mad one" 1) doesn't mean she wants the ride.

now if conor takes the stand, the prosecution is going to ask him his intentions:

This is a lad, who at 10am, dropped what he was doing, arranged a car and security, picked up drunk girls at 10am, knowing they were drugged up and drinking the past 16 hours…. stopped off for cocaine (that he didn't touch) collected a mate at 11am filled them with more drink, made one change clothes (I could be wrong)

Now when an aul lad got a smack for saying no, how do you think this fella reacts when he is feeding and watering 2 girls with €100's worth of drink drugs and food…. what is his end goal? to show the high life?

if this was at 2am and they were partying together, there is some case for it.

For this, defo not, 100% took advantage of a situation…

Was she a dope for texting at that time? Yes. but that doesn't give you a pass for a ride

I 100% believe her, but can see how she can lose also

I think he did it but your post is ridiculous. There is no way he has an evil plan. These things normally happen in the moment, that doesn't make it less evil.. And he wouldn't have the brains to plan anything outside of partying in my opinion.

Nobody is saying he had an evil plan. He didn’t pick up the girls just to party…there was very likely expectation on his side. And all the evidence I have read points to this, and points to her being sincere

There's not a chance he takes the stand. The target for his defense is to make her look like a liar who wants easy money. Unfortunately they are being successful.

I think it's going to be difficult to paint her as untrustworthy, and by that I mean that she's out and out lying. There's no boyfriend, so there's no argument that she just had regrets. It'd be as clear as day to everyone that she would have already been offered a significant amount to drop the case. It'd be different if McGregor was just a Joe Soap. The fact that she's there, and is subjecting herself to cross-examination, despite surely being offered money makes her seem more honest.

Where it might fall down is her memory of what happened - given the amount of alcohol and drugs taken. And of course, the fact that she stayed in the apartment for another nine hours after he left. The jury might decide that her version of events are just too hazy, with too many "I don't remembers" to enable them to come to a guilty verdict.

Curious. Your personal feelings take no part in this, yet expect a guilty verdict…hmmm.

I hop he's done. About time. But, presumed innocent until found guilty.

Civil case being said. I'd love a proper criminal trial with him. It'd make me smile if found guilty. Better late than never.

Monet doesn't buy you smarts.

Trying to hold back commenting until the end of the trial - as a former juror who was awaiting the “gotcha” announcement from the defence after the prosecution laid out their strong case, for pretty much 75% of the trial, but never heard it,

unless these two, erm, gentlemen, get into the witness box and tell their alternative version in detail and compelling story, or another witness provides some quite damning evidence that greatly contradicts the evidence and statements heard to date, I don’t think I’d be moving from my own view at this point, based obviously only on the various reports on traditional and pod cast media that I’ve listened to and read - I haven’t attended in person .

They’re getting a fair trial. Posters here aren’t returning any official verdict

They're irrelevant. As am I.

They decide guilt or innocent on a whim.

No proof but just feels.

I'd prefer a criminal trial. So difficult in a sexual related crime case. Regardless of sex.

You cant find “guilt” in a civil trial. You can find “fault”