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Unsolved Irish Mysteries.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Woodcutting




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Woodcutting


    Today is 29 years since JoJo Dullard vanished. But the Garda must have some information to make it a murder investigation as they did in 2020.

    Anyone know what it was?

    .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    AGS do this with every missing persons cases on anniverseries. Say they have new leads etc. I'd say its more in hope than anything. I do think Larry was responsible for Deirdre. And probably JoJo too. Geographically very close.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    The Gardai aren't saying they have any new leads, it's just an appeal for information.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭Caquas


    The Gardai are saying they have "new lines of inquiry" and they have 800 (!) recommendations.

    There was a witness who gave a shocking account in 2021 of what happened when he and his boss phoned the Gardai that night about a terrified naked woman in Moone, running along street and screaming.

    "He said they [the Garda] told him: 'Don't worry, it'll be grand, we'll send a car out'," the woman said. "And he said about three days later Jo Jo Dullard was missing, so they went to give a statement.

    But the gardaí said it was a different woman altogether because Jo Jo Dullard had been seen in Castledermot afterwards.

    So here's Recommendation Number 801 to the Gardai - "If two witnesses report a naked woman screaming in terror and running away along the road, investigate the report fully even if it appears to have been a woman who was seen later"

    Of all the cases ascribed by the media to the so-called "Vanishing Triangle", only Jo Jo Dullard and Deirdre Jacob look like the work of serial killers and it might well be the same killer - both in Co. Kildare, both thought to involve a passing car. All the other cases are very likely to involve somebody known to the victim (which does not lessen the crime but linking it to other murders only adds to confusion in these investigations which were already confused enough)



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  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 20,606 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    That level of detail wasn't in the RTE article I read.

    It beggars belief that the incident reported in that 2021 article wasn't followed up on at the time, Jo Jo might still be alive if it was.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,197 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    I wonder will Murphy ever talk, sometimes people make a deathbed confession but I don't know if Larry will ever do that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,355 ✭✭✭✭suvigirl


    Well, I believe he did confess to Deirdre Jacobs murder to a cellmate, but there wasn't enough evidence to charge him. So you never know!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭Caquas


    It looks even worse - there seems to have been a series of elementary errors in dealing with these vital (and entirely cooperative) witnesses.

    His boss called the cops immediately after they saw the naked woman running away. He was told a Garda car would go to the scene. There is no mention anywhere of any patrol car actually going to Moone that night. Three days later when they heard about a missing woman, he and his boss went to the Gardai and made a statement but were fobbed off because the Gardai believed Jo Jo Dullard had been seen alive afterwards in Castledermot.

    This is mind-boggling! What did the Gardai make of this compelling evidence from two highly credible witnesses? Did they assume that a different woman in Moone had been stripped naked and ran in terror through the village about the time Jo Jo made her fateful phone call? Or did they think Jo Jo had retrieved her clothes and gone to Castledermot (about 5 miles away) to walk calmly around without seeking any help after her traumatic ordeal?

    Worst of all, this investigation then proceeded for 20 years without any further reference to these vital witnesses.

    Here's a very detailed account of her movements that fateful day.

    https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/1caine7/the_shocking_disappearance_of_josephine_jojo/

    She was definitely in Moone at 11.37pm because the phone call records confirm what her friend told the Gardai about the phone call. Jo Jo finished the call because a car stopped to offer her a lift. A witness also reported seeing a woman leaving the phone booth in Moone at that time and jumping into the back seat of a car which she thought was a Toyota Carina.

    After that, nothing is certain.

    There are witnesses who place her in Castledermot shortly afterwards but these are not reliable in my view. These witnesses had only seen in passing a young woman who they believed, in recollection many days later, had fitted Jo Jo's description. This woman was not in distress, did not draw attention to herself and no one saw her get in or out of a car.

    The next reported sighting was near Waterford. A taxi driver came forward a year later to say he saw barefoot girl jump out of a car only to be dragged back in by two men. He said the car was a red coloured Ford Sierra with a British/NI reg. The Sierra was a very similar car to the Carina so this evidence is not inconsistent with the car sighted in Moone. It is unclear why the taxi driver didn't report it at the time but taxi drivers see a lot of strange things and it may have been a year later before he connected this incident with the reported disappearance of Jo Jo Dullard.

    In many of these cases, the Gardai were slow to react to reports that someone has disappeared and, in their defence, it must be said that, especially before mobile phones, people often turned up safe and well after being AWOL for a couple of days. But that is not an excuse in this case. A young woman disappears after making a call shortly before midnight from a remote village to say she is trying to hitchhike home and then jumping in a car with strangers. If the Gardai didn't recognize the danger and begin an immediate investigation - well there's Recommendation No. 802.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭doughef


    Man arrested in connection with murder of Jo Jo Dullard


    https://x.com/rtenews/status/1855922111459549366?s=46



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators Posts: 12,749 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Just came to post the same, arrested on suspicion of murder. Please God they are on the right track and will find out finally where she is

    RTE news : Man arrested in connection with murder of Jo Jo Dullard

    http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2024/1111/1480265-jo-jo-dullard-investigation/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,791 ✭✭✭Caquas


    "arrested on suspicion of her murder".

    Not jumping to any conclusions about his possible guilt, but that sounds like the Gardaí may be preparing to charge him with her murder.

    29 years!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,909 ✭✭✭✭Mam of 4


    After all this time, fingers crossed they have the man responsible.

    Post edited by Mam of 4 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,273 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Very welcome news. It may go a long way towards explaining what did or didn't happen at the time the various young women went missing in the general area.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭I told ya


    Fingers crossed that AnGS have cracked it.

    Hopefully it will bring some bit of comfort to JJ's family.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Deregos.


    Some of these disappearances like Jo Jo Dullard's are purely opportunist murders, whereas in many of the other cases, the women would have known their killer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,777 ✭✭✭Hangdogroad


    Not Larry Murphy it would seem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭Gusser09


    Man aged in his 50's. Larry is 58. I can't see it being him though as the media would hint towards him strongly you feel.

    At the same time the other suspect would probably be in his 50's too. It will be interesting to see if it is him as there were hints of corruption etc at the time as to why he wasn't arrested or investigated more. His father was in a high positions within FG and had strong agricultural links in the country too. Ireland was different place back then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Hoping and praying that Jo Jo finally can be put to rest with dignity and her family can get answers and justice for Jo Jo!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭hugeorange


    The murder of Michael McCoy in the Wicklow mountains a few years ago is one I think about a lot still. He was an environmentalist and objected to planning permission a lot in the area. It seems quite obvious that he was killed by someone from the area and everyone else has kept quiet since. The tone that some people took at the time in response to his murder was disgraceful - essentially suggesting he got what he deserved. I would be surprised if it ever gets solved. Don't think it's even received much publicity since it happened. One of those things that was just sort of quietly forgotten about after it happened. I guess pissing off property developers seems to have made it certain that it won't receive the sort of attention other crimes have received.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Woodcutting




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 749 ✭✭✭doughef


    looks like they have a location and are searching for a body ?

    This is huge - I really hope they find her after all this time,


    https://x.com/conormlally/status/1855947823008600530?s=46



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 511 ✭✭✭Woodcutting




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭RonanG86


    More to the point, I thought Larry was no longer resident in Ireland.

    If this bloke was arrested abroad, I reckon they'd report as much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 627 ✭✭✭jay1988


    Just announced on the news the man arrested is 55, so not Larry.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,717 ✭✭✭celt262


    Look up John Doyle on twitter he is never far off the mark.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,273 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    I've seen mention that the suspect has always been on the Gardai's radar but is not Murphy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 124 ✭✭LennieB


    I think the suspect was the person who gave her a lift from Kilcullen to Moone, last person to see her. He was under investigation before.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 134 ✭✭LunaLoo


    I didnt think they ever tracked that person down?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭I told ya




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