Irish General Election - Friday, November 29th *Read OP for Mod Warnings*

A short campaign is better, 3 weeks is long enough to have to listen to TDs talking sh1te when they call to the door.

Gaffe number 2 (after Grainnes add in the paper about cancer treatment which hasn't gone down well at all in Galway) of the election campaign and the first weekend isn't over yet

Non story

Ah jaysus, a stopped clock is correct at least twice a day.

That thread was pure speculation - do you believe everything thread started on boards? At the same time the politicians had been keeping with theis BS line.

What's makey upey about saying that people make plans around the election date once they know it? Less notice isn't a good thing.

"If people are on holiday and can't vote so be it" - what about the "Postal vote" you were certain off they could apply for?

I don't personally like to find as many problems as possible in Ireland, the opposite in fact - but our political class is getting away with murder - not just the government, but those in oppossition as well.

Even now we see the dance has started to try fool people into thinking that FF and FG have fallen out on specific policy issues and down right don't like each other, thinking we will forget that they were together the past few years.

I agree with the bigger problem as you've defined it - at least half the potential electorage probably wont take the few hours needed to inform themselves and vote.

FG TDs/Senators and members at the event gave him a round of applause and loud cheers when he said what he did about teachers

It's all on video

Saying they don't agree with him now once they seen the public's reaction dosnt wash

Half the dail are teachers by profession. This story is called a deflection from real issues. Teachers getting upset is hardly news.

napoleon said in his consul he wanted more head, and less tongue.

So I’ll be asking the canvassers which party will give me more head, and less tongue.

perhaps instead of looking for something to be outraged over you actually read the substance of my post right?

Clo is complaining that it’s being labelled a giveaway budget because those on 70k income will be about €20 better off and to that end it’s not a giveaway.

However when you consider there’s €1000’s in one off and lump sum payments being made to those on welfare (not just pensioners or disabled people either- but regardless let’s be honest not everyone on DA is in a wheelchair or otherwise severely disabled), that makes it a giveaway budget and that’s where the names come from.

I didn’t give any opinion on whether or not the payments are deserved or otherwise, so again, fcuking calm down. Jaysus.

What makes you think I'm outraged over something? As for your 'calm fcukin down', it seems there is one of us more then a bit annoyed. It's not me.

I'm merely pointing out that this

This week someone on Disability and Fuel allowance was paid an additional €700 on top of their usual payment. Last week they got a double payment. They’ll get another one in a few weeks too.

Working family payment got a €400 payment this week and I understand that people on living alone allowance are due to or have recently received a bonus €200 payment this month also.

It’s a giveaway as long as you’re on welfare.

Sounds like moaning and insulting people on welfare, my mother is a pensioner, I don't think she would be impressed being told she is on welfare considering she worked her whole life.

Different parts of that would be weighted differently across the country. On it's own Dublin would not be the 4th safest capital city for females, no way rural Ireland is the 3rd best educated place in the world, or indeed most of those stats aside from the safety.

I think they just came out with that when speaking to journalists as it sounded good

They forgot to mention this would mean an increase in vat rate for gyms etc meaning the hospitality industry will save a few quid but important health things like gym membership would be increasing

FG in a nutshell

The rankings are for the country as a whole. I am not cherry picking by taking safety in rural Ireland or income in Dublin. I didn't make up these stats.

Look, there are threads here predicting tonnes of things. Even the thread you are speaking about was wrong every week until it was right. Ultimately the politicians are responsible for the messaging.

People like yourself who think that the timelines involved were appropriate based on what we were being told surprise me. Why let the politicians off the hook so easily?

I suspect many teachers agree with Michael O'Leary's comments.