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Sinn Fein and how do they form a government dilemma

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    88 for majority. 174 seats (which is absolutely ridiculous)

    I did see Gavan Reilly tweet a few weeks back, it will be the first time ever no party will run enough candidate's to form a majority



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    And other schools have virtually eliminated usage of phones without the use of pouches. They've used effective policies tailored specifically to the individual school and agreed with the support of all stakeholders.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    Really?

    Maybe not stupid but incompetent

    So far we had the insurance proposal from Pearse which would have ended up with everyone in Ireland not been able to get a discount for insuracen driving the cost up for everyone

    Then we had the "tax the rich" which was 140k and then a few weeks later 100k, thats a huge margin of error

    Thats before we look at the plan to "tax the rich" while giving the rich a huge tax reduction by removing the LPT.

    So some people would say that alone is fairly stupid, as I said I would say incompetent.

    The faux outrage over everything is extremely boring



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    In terms of the Banks

    BOI paid back more than they got

    AIB will do the same

    PTSB will do the same

    So we made a profit from the bank bail out, our issue was Anglo was a money pit and also for some reason they went after Quinn and we are paying off his debt.

    Just a FYI



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Her decision to get kids fully back to school during Covid, despite the hand wringing by teachers and unions, was courageous and put education at the centre of the argument.

    School meals for all- another courageous move with children at the centre of it. You hear complaints from some teachers about waste and extra work for them but what's new

    Delivered a system to get Leaving Certs done during an unprecedented time of challenge. It wasn't perfect but the LC kids got their grades and their further education places.

    Phone pouches are in use in other countries, California, Finland, Denmark also. They are part of an overall policy on phones in school. Some countries have opted for a total ban, can you imagine the parents' outcry if that were attempted here? The pouches are a compromise.

    As for the hand sanitizer, you might need to check the full detail on that story.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,088 ✭✭✭Clo-Clo


    This is the thing, check online and you see parents complaining that they want their children to have a phone in school so they can contact in emergency etc

    When I suggest to one person that they could just ring the school and ask them to put the child onto a school phone, needless to say the reaction was mental saying the school shouldn't know if she has an emergency and wants to contact her child. Some people are just f**king idiots in my opinion and the pouch is the best alternatiev

    People just made a big deal about it because, wel people make a big deal about everything these days



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    "People just made a big deal about it because, wel people make a big deal about everything these days"

    A sure sign the country is in good shape.

    Complaining is inevitable, what they are complaining about tells the tale.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    I'd love the full detail on the hand sanitizer story. Could you give me a link please?

    As for your claim about her system for the LC not being perfect. That's a bit of an understatement. We're 4 years post-pandemic and the LC is still not back to normal. Grade inflation has destroyed the credibility of the exams and only from after the 2025 exams will there be a gradual return to normality. In true Norma fashion nobody knows how long that will take. Meanwhile (you couldnt actually make this up) before the return to normality begins, Norma Phoney decides to bring in new syllibi from next September!!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Grades inflation occurred in the most trying of circumstances for students and parents.and teachers.

    However, it was teachers themselves who inflated the grades of their students in Yr1, setting a grade precedent that has been difficult to unwind.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Genuinely interested in the full detail behind the dodgy sanitizer that Foley knowingly left in use for 2 days in hundreds of schools.

    Have you a link?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c39nd481j2zo

    Sinn Fein going to a Black and Tan commemoration. Hypocrisy as per.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    SF have been commemorating the black and tans for over 20 years.

    "More than 20 years have passed since Alex Maskey became the first Sinn Féin lord mayor to pay his respects to the war dead at the Cenotaph at Belfast City Hall."

    Hardly surprising as many Shinners had relations who were tans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,380 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Ah yeah .agreed with her being a complete drip and all the rest

    But still think this measure is worth way more than it's costing

    Maybe SF should focus on predicted grades and other cockups during her tenure

    This is a stretch tbh and not going to win them any votes from anybody they are targeting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,735 ✭✭✭Finty Lemon


    Oireachtas debates 2-5 Nov 2020 will get you started. Enjoy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,779 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    When you figure out that the Mayor and First Minister positions are not party political and are representative of all, get back to us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,479 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    No SF did.

    They have so many relatives in the British army. Eg Joe Cahill and his family.

    https://x.com/cahillbooks/status/1855371832704024690



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,077 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Jesus they can't win. She's the first minister, of course she should go. If she didn't people would be complaining too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Tonights poll has them worried, they were expecting the Shinners to be down again but if you take the Margain of Error into account FF, FG and SF are all on the same % .

    They will try anything to try discredit them

    Your correct if she didn't go, we would have heard she's meant be first minister for all bla bla bla



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,629 ✭✭✭Augme


    No doubt FG will invite Joe and his family when Simon Harris announces his next festival of celebration for the Black and Tans then.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,293 ✭✭✭Good loser


    Harry you keep harping on that canard. If the Govt builds a school and the school costs €20m that is Year 1 capital spend; they do not add that the maintenance of that school will cost €x m per annum thereafter because that is current spend i.e. a recurring annual cost. You (and Pearse) must apply yourselves to understand the difference between current and capital spending. As things stand, it demonstrates how neither of you are qualified to be Ministers for Finance yet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,138 ✭✭✭I see sheep


    How can SF hope to compete with stellar candidates like Gráinne Seoige?

    As a FF candidate she makes it clear in her election ads that she will fix the terrible cancer care rates in Galway if elected.

    Presumably by texting her FF colleague who is the minister for health?

    You could not make it up.

    "a terrible war imposed by the provisional IRA"

    Our West Brit Taoiseach



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Now I wouldn't be slagging off Pearse on his finance knowledge considering the man who was finance minister for years Paschal Donohue signed off on a hospital with no budget which is currently standing at 2.2billion with no completion date over 6 years later



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,670 ✭✭✭Choochtown


    Wow! €300,000 worth of sanitiser recaĺled! Norma sure does like wasting our money.

    Her only defense as far as I can find is that it "may" actually be safe and "may" be used in the future. (Spoiler alert: it wasn't)

    Still no excuse for knowingly keeping it in use for a full 2 days after finding out it was unlicenced and had the potential to cause serious harm. Saving her career took priority over potential skin and eye damage to our children.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭pureza


    Amusing ostrich head in sand take on the banjaxed state of the main opposition party after 8 years of FFG ,only compounded by the last couple of additional anger filled sF posts if you ask me ? But carry on you’re doing wonderful…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,779 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Poster is only underlining what you predicted yourself. Strange rant there tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,480 ✭✭✭pureza


    why strange? Isn’t this poster (me) only underlining the mess SF have to climb back out of ?

    I’ve simply stated,parsing myself here for you,that if voters go to SF,they will do so not out of a messiah moment but out of no other choice given the absolute hames SF is making of things.

    So yes they will come.

    However,as I said a few times now,what main opposition party has ever fell in popularity so much in an election year after nearly 14 years of opposing a government,none I’d say?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,779 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It is what it is.
    We all see why they fell in 'putative' support, not actual support and I for one are happy they didn't chase that promised vote.
    It is also abundantly clear now that the recent scandals have had little to no effect on base support as people can see they did the right thing when confronted with wrongdoing in their ranks. Wagons were not circled around wrongdoers. All voters have a choice by the way, they just aren't choosing what many would love to see them choosing.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,596 ✭✭✭spillit67


    Is this the narrative now….polls aren’t going lower so things must be turning / good?

    We’ve a few weeks left to go obviously but we’ve been in the longest drawn out campaign of my lifetime. The needle did not move on SF’s landmark policy for them.

    I know this is all about “events dear boy” and another Black and Tans type thing could come out to whip the Republican Nua children back out to the polls, but that seems to be a weird thing to rely on.

    The reality is that a large chunk of your base has deserted you over migration and you’ll struggle to get them back.

    Efforts to broaden the party by trying to be New Labour on the economy haven’t worked either. Irish business invited SF in because they are practical but it doesn’t mean you’re convincing them to get behind you.



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