Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

If anything I've learned it's that polls for the most part are a load of shite imo in terms of meaningful accuracy. I remember back to 2016 how skewed they were state by state, many were off by 8, 9 points. Brexit was way off, so were the 2020 midterms and yesterday the pollsters didn't cover themselves in glory either. They use the term "margin of error" to try and give a sense of scientific credibility to the data but that data is always going to be skewed due to sample size, how differently urban and rural areas often cluster together and the type of voters who actually want to engage with them. People aren't always going to be truthful either, I think of how often political people call door to door in Ireland even looking for votes and you give them the nod like you're intending on voting for them but never do. Just want them off your doorstep 🤣

I understand they're meant to be a rough estimate and more or less a guideline of what public opinion is. What grates me is when I'd switch on political broadcasts and often they'd have breaking news with a brand new poll and a headline of "Xcandidate gaining momentum now +3 in Wisconsin" etc then a big discussion about what it means for that campaign. I guess the news networks need something to talk about to keep interest going in an election but giving week to week poll numbers that level of credibility is something I struggle to understand.

They aren’t trumped up charges though.

Multiple outlets calling Arizona for Trump, that's all the swing states going red. What were the odds on that?

white straight male from here on for the democrats… also maybe they should start scaremongering in regards to trans people ? And talk about pets being eaten ?

already reports that the irish government is planning to take more ukranian refugees next year due to trump election

maybe we need to take a leaf from trumps book and look after our own first

https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/ministers-fear-donald-trumps-return-to-power-could-cause-another-cost-of-living-crisis-in-ireland/a2126255687.html

I'd say older voters dying could account for a good chunk of that,

That's so last election cycle, gotta find something new, something different

I understand that Trump cannot be sued while he is President , all court cases are dropped/stalled, he can do what he wants, etc, etc. As he said himself , he could shoot someone in broad daylight in the centre of NY. - witnessed by loads and get away with it.
MY QUESTION IS ‘ when he has done his 4 years can the court cases now being ‘dropped’ be resurrected after that and continue to their conclusion or does this immunity last for his lifetime.
Also , is he now absolved from paying Stormy?

I think it stalls Fedral criminal cases only. Civil cases can still continue. I presume E Jean Carroll still get paid

The democrats haven't spoken out against it either people in their party or people who support them in the media.You had one of their representatives losing his head when a proposal was put forward in one of the state legislatures to stop trans-women from competing in high schools sports.They are seen to support this nonsense and they haven't done anything to change peoples minds that they aren't supporting it.

Hard to disagree with that assessment.

I myself asked on this thread a few times about Harris and her policies and was rounded on because…

"DoNaLdTrUmPiSaNaZi!!!"

The selling point of Harris it seems was that she was not Donald Trump, which turned off many swing voters.

I wonder will the same posters who have clogged up this thread with this nonsense reflect and change their tune now?

The republican tactic was to turn the debate onto the couple of sports organisations who let a handful of trans people compete or onto immigrants eating dogs and to convince people these issues were the cause of all their problems. Complete fringe or non existent issues. Thing is it worked.

Harris had every opportunity to go on any 'right wing' media to put her own policies and thoughts out there.
Rogan, who until now was always a Democrat and openly supported Bernie Sanders in 2016 and 2020, gave her the same opportunity to speak openly for 3+ hours, same as Trump. That interview currently has 48 million views on YT and probably near that again on Spotify. She told Rogan she would speak to him for 45 mins in a location of her choice with her handlers with her at all times. He said no, rightly so.
Almost all mainstream media - radio, TV and newspapers were all anti-Trump. Harris foolishly thought that their support would win her the election and believed the nonsense they put out, along with her 'celeb' friends. Those days are long gone. They say people have shorter attention spans these days but 46 million watched the 3+ hour Trump interview, 15m watched the Rogan/Vance and 12m the Musk interview. The more of these I listen to these type of interviews I get a much better feel for the person and I can see how much rubbish we are fed by the legacy media.
Harris has proven over and over she cannot speak, not because she is shy or awkward but because she has nothing to say. She barely makes sense when on autocue, rambling and repeating. She was a shockingly poor choice as VP and an even worse choice to run for the election. Walz was equally poor.
If the Democrats don't clear the decks of the likes of Pelosi, the Clintons and the Obamas then they are in for years out of office. I already feel that Tulsi Gabbard is being primed for 2028 and she is in a totally different league to Harris.