Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

It's one the zanier theories. That the young Trump arrange the podcast circuit to boost papa's youth appeal.

So you think Harris should run again in 2028?

You mean The Messiah

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I wonder how much of Biden still thinks he could have won it.

You are in dangerous territory, fixated on Bob Dole and Barron Trump.

What riles me (as someone who very much wanted to see Trump lose) is how so many people put 'the economy' on Biden and the Democrats didn't manage to inform them that the post-Covid inflation was very much market lead and happened world wide. If anything Biden's Covid recovery act served to help the US out of that better than other places, but still people weren't made to see it that way.

Democrats, after they got over their initial 'travel bans are racist' early on in Covid, got fully behind and demanded rolling punitive lockdowns and wanted ever more helicopter money thrown at a sleeping economy. This massive and artificial supply of cash in the economy is a perfect storm for inflation to creep in - but hold on to your hat, if you think that was the worst of the Democrats actions, worse is to follow - keep reading.

Democrats supported and implemented sanctions on Russian oil imports while simultaneously closing down American gas, oil, nuclear and coal energy production - the result of which has been ever surging energy prices. In America, just like Ireland - everything moves on the back of a truck. This drives up production and distribution prices rapidly which results in super inflated shelf prices, even for basics.

Democrats pushed through 'green new deal' initiatives which mostly are based upon immature technologies and these are failing to put any necessary dent in the costs to businesses and households alike. Democrats also encouraged more migration into the US which drives up property prices, puts pressure on services and increases demand for basics further.

In fact there are alot of similarities and parallels to all of the above here in the EU. There now is evidence of a massive pushback to all this from ordinary US citizens who are sick and tired of the low-purchasing power of their hard earned cash. Hence, Trump with a borderline landslide victory.

TLDR Trump winning is a measure of the completely disastrous Biden-Harris policies from 2021-2024.

I mean, the idea that the President could step in and influence what was happening in the market as it did, should be alien to Conservative ideals where they supposedly want less and less government intervention. But still, Biden got the blame and Harris probably suffered as a consequence.

The idea that Biden-Harris could have stopped pouring petrol on the fire they started might have helped. So, in summary - government policies intervened in the market from different angles and got turfed out last night as a result. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

Shep the dog with a MAGA hat would have won last night.

If he thinks it at all he’s crazy.

Harris ran as good a campaign as you could expect in 100 days but was still heavily criticised for the state of the economy and high prices as well as the Middle East. Biden would have had all that baggage as well as the concerns about his age and would have lost as heavily imo.

It’s easy to say now, but him deciding to run again is probably the biggest factor in the loss to Trump. If he stuck to his guns we might have gotten a different candidate that could more easily distance themselves from the current administration and they would have had a longer run-in to get themselves known to voters. How much of a difference it would have made though, we’ll never know - but I think there’ll be a lot of democrats who hold it against him.

You could say the same about abortion, couldn't you? There were many Democrat commentators around who were convinced that every US woman of child-bearing age were going out voting Harris just so they could get their abortion on demand back. That this was 'the female issue of our times'.

The joke there would be that he does think he won it…

But he was apparently surrounded by yes-men and enablers throughout his presidency if the bad polling data was any kind of revelation to him. I don't think I saw many swing state polls that ever had him ahead of Trump at any point in 2024. Maybe a few ones from Michigan or Wisconsin consisting of a one or two point lead, but the overall trend most definitely had him underwater, as they say.

It was this circle around him which was the only thing that ever gave him a thought of winning. There was no evidence to back up the idea that this was possible. It's mad to think he wanted to stay on after his debate performance. Getting completely lost mid-sentence and finishing with '…we beat Medicaid' while looking like he genuinely didn't know where he was - anyone would know there is no recovering from that. It just can't happen.

Did you not listen to it? Biden and his wife were mentioned.