Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

The US is such a vast country with a multitude of cultures that I would not be too surprised if by 2028 there is talk of some States seeking independence, the obvious one being California. Might sound daft but given the division in their country, it might be best for all in the long term.

Go back one more election:

• 66 million in 2012 to Obama

Same numbers as Clinton and Harris. The pandemic bloated the numbers in 2020 for both sides, it wasn't a true reflection of a normal turnout.

He just needs to come down hard on criminals or any illegal who steps out of line. If you enter illegally but peacefully integrate not too many will hold it against trump if he doesn't deport.

The main thing will be to reduce the flow of illegals. Give services and resources a chance to catch up. The current level's like in Ireland are far beyond what the majority want.

I was confident for Harris going into the election and boy was I wrong. Disastrous result for her, the Democrats, America and the world.

The yanks have got their president they deserve unfortunately. He'll destroy their economy , progressive rights, democracy and media and a majority are to blame for their ignorance, greed and lack of democratic moral values taking over in the polling booth. Its clear their society is rotten to its core and Musk and Trump will lead them to their promised land of demise

Imagine Trump took as long to ring Harris to concede?

There'd be uproar.

So when does the blame game start?

Will people now realise that threads like these is not real life?

Will the Democrats change course now and try and win back the working class or are they more into Celebrity and Hollywood.

Interesting to see who Trump puts into his administration, he said himself he trusted a lot of wrong people first time around

From listening to Trump supporting Americans I think a big part of his re-election is a push back against the direction so called progressive rights are going, an increasingly untrustworthy media and high levels of illegal immigration. It’s a desire to a return to more conservative values.

Sounds like half the far left is in preparation to evacuate America. Could be a big influx of them on the way to Europe no doubt. They'll be shocked when they find out the sentiment here is going the same way.

I’m very pro Ukraine so his election is a concern.

But look at it this way, why should a war in Europe be supported much more by the US than the actual Europeans like Germany or Ireland?

I don’t agree with American isolationism ala Trump but I can certainly see why many working class Americans are so against paying for ‘Foreign Wars’

They won't go anywhere they'll just scream into TikTok about it for a bit until the view count starts going down.

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While the magnitude of Trump's win and the down-ticket victories might be legitimately unexpected, you would have to have been in a epistemically sealed bubble for the last six months or so to not realise that Trump was going to be heading back to the White House.

Lots of Europeans who like to harp on about American politics might do well to reconsider where they get their information from, and how accurate it was about the US election.

And if those sources were very wrong about the election - a subject that will always, in the end, be proven one way or the other - how wrong are they about myriad other subjects for which there is never a proving ground?

I wouldn't have a particular issue with them becoming much more isolationist. If that's the path that their public want to go down, then so be it. Though in that case, they should really stop arming Israel as well - I fail to see how their alliance with Netanyahu aids them in the slightest or makes them safer, plus refusing to arm Ukraine but arming Israel to the hilt would be very odd.