Random EV thoughts.....

I think those who buy a new V8 Range Rover won't be put off by a couple of grand going on the road tax.

Where are you pulling your VRT amounts from? They are wrong, and waaay off on the V8 Range Rover.

Base model Yaris Cross (Luna Hybrid) has a VRT amount of €3,698, and the SWB V8 Range Rover Autobiography has €110,429.

Well when you've a massive hole in public finances pissing everyone off with the budget is probably an acceptable result, means everyone shoulders the burden

As regards EVs, I wouldn't expect much from Labour. They'll likely focus on infrastructure rather than purchase incentives

All of that... And the world shifted in the middle. Brexit, COVID, lockdown, war, Chinese EV boom.

Meaning the economics of EV production and ownership changed.

The price cuts have made my EV on PCP practically worthless, I'm strongly considering going back to an Octavia petrol, they seem to be holding their values fairly well. The only thing in favour of owning an EV in this climate is home charging on a cheap EV rate.

Are they paying me for a new set of plates?

If it's only cosmetic, why change them?

Lads....just be happy for once 😂

at least with pcp you can just hand it back at the end, and with the price cuts a new one will be a lot cheaper. you wont have to drive an asthmatic octavia petrol either 😁

Exactly. For every EV driver who wants their car to stand out, there's another who just wants to go about their business efficiently with a relatively anonymous car that doesn't shout "Musk/Trump fan" or "Tree hugger" or "I'm about to get mugged by depreciation".

Look at how Mercedes are backing off from super slippy futuro-EQ-cars and just adding bigger batteries to cars that look and are named like proper Mercs. I suspect the buyers driving that will not be wanting a badge of shame.

I'm the same tbh. Any and all fuel savings on my model 3 have been wiped out and then some by the excessive price cuts. Yes you can buy a new one now cheaper. But that doesn't change that existing owners lost money. And may not want another.

As it stands I'm driving my xc90 diesel while the insurance is sorted on my model 3 with the finance company and getting it written off etc. I may just stay driving this. Fuel isnt even that expensive, and this car is only doing 25-30mpg. My model 3 was 850 quid a month on PCP, along with a 10k deposit, and all that is gone now. 10k over 2 years added to the repayments makes it over 1k a month. Plus another 100 or so on electricity. Even at 25mpg, 1100 per month buys a heck of a lot of fuel.

I'm equally torn between buying a heavily depreciated model X or just simply not buying anything.

Ill get the green plates when they allow me to drive in bus lanes and park wherever I want because I'm better and more important than an ICE driver

A green stripe on a plate is showing how easily some people get wound up.

I think it’ll be an easy decision for most EV owners, No Thanks.

I never bought a new ICE.

I do a lot of miles, my first EV was a leaf24 and I did 60k km in just over 12 months in it. 70-80% of that is sitting at 100 or 120 on a motorway. Fuel savings (and other running costs like maintenance etc) were the only reason for me going EV. If they brought out a car powered by whale oil that was 10% the cost of diesel I'd have gone for that. Being totally honest, before the leaf I ran old diesel cars that I bought from auction and run on green diesel and or kerosene. So yeah it was 110% a cost thing.

I went from saving money in a leaf, an Ioniq (*2), a tesla S and X, to then suddenly losing money on the 3. Big time. I lost 21k in repayments and a 10k deposit in 24 months of ownership. In that time my fuel bill was 600 per month cheaper than diesel. So I "saved" 14k in fuel but it still cost me 17k with absolutely zero to show for it.

EVs are no longer for people like me, who like to change cars regularly. Since my EV was crashed into and written off, it has been replaced by a 25mpg diesel XC90. I had the xc90 all along but it was used sparingly only when 7 seats or towing or boot capacity was needed. Now I'm considering simply not replacing the model 3 at all. Doing my annual mileage - around 40k km last year - would only cost me approximately 4k for the year, even adding in another 4k to cover tax and maintenance that's still cheaper than the tesla. And it doesn't bing and bong at me if there's a bit of fog.

I'm betwixt and between doing that, or getting an already heavily depreciated model X 7 seater with a towbar to replace the volvo outright. Stockholm syndrome.