Harris Vs Trump 2024 US Presidential election - read the warning in the OP posted 18/09/24

I think you should consider the reaction to Nick Bosa last week versus a former member of the same team, one Colin Kaepernick and the reaction towards both of them expressing political views.

Aside from that, the NFL, MBL, NHL, NASCAR, Golf, Combat sports are all populated by prominent conservative voices. What about left leaning members of those sports?

Even with respect to Hollywood, Ronald Reagan was one of the Republican parties most famous politicians of the last 50 years and his success in early elections was built on his career in Hollywood. Same goes for Schwarzenegger and his running and winning the Governor of California race for the Republican party.

The Republican party gave a key speaking role to Clint Eastwood in the 2012 RNC. John Voight, Dennis Quaid, Mel Gibson, Jim Caviziel continue to support him.

How do you reckon it is mostly Republicans who are affected in this way? Trump won the majority of the states in 2020 and 2016, America still has a large proportion of states that are definitively conservative, what do you think life is like for Democrat people in these areas?

I lived in a very blue state in the US, even there, there was no shortage of very vocal very right wing conservatives peddling their views. Right wing group[s regularly ran flag protests on bridges on major highways. Does that strike you as an environment where people were afraid of disclosing their allegiance? I have democrat friends living in Florida and part of their strategy around this election was to vote as early as possible so that they wouldn't end up having to go to the polls amid what they expect to be a lot of Republicans on Tuesday. Other friends I spoke to in New Hampshire decided this year to not put out a Harris sign because a lot of signs in their town were being vandalized.

And despite all of this, nothing here has anything to do with a dictatorship. This environment could exist within a dictatorship, but these aren't defined traits unique to that type of government.

I just blocked a poster.

Call me Kim Jung Un!

What you're looking for is lack of judgement for your opinions not the ability to have those opinions.

I would defend someone's right to hold an opinion, however, I don't have to like that opinion or engage with the person who holds that opinion.

You seem to know how people will judge your opinions and are trying to resist judgement and rational discourse being applied to those opinions.

Again, my point isn't about the tiny number of Trump supporters who took part. It's about the man who conspired to cause an insurrection and whom directed that mob to the Capitol.

Regarding the Committee. Why were there only 2 Republicans? What lead to that particular turn of events.

Interesting that "impartiality" is a stance you would take given the volume of documents entered in the Jan 6th committee record along with the video testimony released. All confirming the effort directed by Trump to overthrow the transfer of power. Those documents are only reinforced by the Chutkan ordered evidence releases.

Even just that of the WH & Trump staffers is damning but somehow? Because there were only 2 republicans on the panel, due to GOP efforts to kill it, the evidence of our eyes and ears must be dismissed?

The video testimony of those in Trump's orbit? The convictions since of Cheseboro, the disbarment of Giuliani, Powell &Cheseboro, suspension of Ellis & others all of whom worked directly at the instigation of Trump all to be disregarded.

But yeah, mean committee picked on poor Don and "tiny number" of insurrectionists

Zachary Levi endorsed Trump and he said that actors in Hollywood were "terrified" to publicly say they supported Trump

I don't buy it in the sense that it is something that exists in isolation and is something that only affects conservatives. How many openly gay people are in male professional sports, why do you think that the number is so small?

"This environment could exist within a dictatorship". Ok, then what would you call that kind of an environment? I'm happy to use whatever word you'd use to describe it.

Highly charged. And it could easily be exploited by a dictator, and Trump, the closest that the US has come to having a dictator in its history did attempt to bring that about with his statements of intent and the rhetoric he espoused.

Caviezel was not blacklisted because of The Passion of Christ... He probably did struggle in more recent times because of his qanon stuff. He hasn't had any leading roles outside of TV but that's not unique to him.

Also Jon Voight who is pretty outspoken still gets plenty of gigs. Clint Eastwood backed Trump in 2016 but he's backed off from him but that's just because he doesn't back him. Levi is largely just complaining cause Shazam didn't make him a star.

Would bookies payout of Trump won and immediately stepped down after being swore in for health reasons letting Vance become President.

Of course the health reasons would come with a full Presidental Pardon from Vance.

You'll always be Kim Jong Il to me.

@Agent Coulson payouts happen when electoral colleges are won. Not based on swearing in etc.

I think Trump will win the electoral college, whatever about the popular vote.

looks like trump in serious trouble harris has all the women voting for her

You know, I think you'd break boards.ie with the bullet list if you included everything. Probably set as an integer, would max out as 32,767

Whatever about the odds on Trump and Harris the odds on Vance and Walz show how flakey the betting markets are, in a near 50:50 race the odds of the VP candidates should not be the same when one of the two candidates is 78 and the other is 60.

The probability of the two candidates on the top of the ticket dying are not remotely the same.

Ah come on, even Trump couldn't make 2,147,483,647, or could he ?