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Best Electricity Plan for new EV Owners

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 127 ✭✭Bannerman1969


    Yeah. Went down that road 2 years ago and savings now on electricy and diesel make it very worth while for me.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭staples7


    For someone like myself who pops in and out of this thread every few months, still nothing better than the Flogas deal im on so. Are we expecting this to change?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Dont know if it is..Im in the middle of changing my supplier and banged my data into EnergyPal and Flogas did not come near the top. I am going with Bord Gais as they have the cheapest EV rate and I can shift my EV charging into this and the day rate is competative, night rate is a couple cent more than the best. If you have a smart meter put your data into EnergPal.ie

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    Here is my year consumption per half hour, as you can see I can shift all the EV charging into the 3 hour window that Bord Gais have and this will push them to the top for me.

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    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



  • Moderators, Home & Garden Moderators Posts: 7,090 Mod ✭✭✭✭graememk


    Energypal only does 24hr and smart plans.. I think. You need to put the flogas DN in manually (well the last time I checked I did)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    They have the regular D/N tarriffs as well in their @graememk

    Here are the top ones for my profile in D/N non smort!

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    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,608 ✭✭✭MojoMaker


    You seem to have missed the good Flogas plan. Maybe it's not available anyway, but for those on it - their 24c/12c non-smart D/N plan is currently a winner.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 851 ✭✭✭staples7


    ya bonkers/energy pal doesn't appeal to have that 12c/24c plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I got an extra 3% off when I stopped entering my information during the sign up process, I got an email offering me further reduced rates which I took.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,342 ✭✭✭obi604


    regarding this flogas plan, I had a look around and cannot find the answer. But is there something if you go above x units you get charged higher rates, cant recall the x value(s)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 578 ✭✭✭kuro2k


    Anyone know will flogas allow someone with smart meter (not activated) currently on 24 hr plan to join day/night plan?

    https://www.flogas.ie/price-plans/certa-affinity-rate/detail.html?fuelType=gas&offerId=47&availability=new_customers



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    Hi,

    Can I enter info manually into EnergyPal somehow? Can't see it on their site. I'm with Yuno and can only access pdfs of my bills.

    On their site, in the 'how to get HDF file' is this a typo?

    EnergyPal.ie supports following HDF file formats:

    • ESB Networks
    • Bordgais
    • SSE Airtricity
    • Energia
    • Electric Ireland

    I remember someone saying there's a downside to activating a smart meter & it seemed quite big. Anyone remind me please?

    Thanks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    The hdf file is available from the esbn site. Go to esbn.ie and create an account once you have that done you can download the hdf file and upload it to energypal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    You'll need a day/night meter. Flogas will submit a request to esbn for your meter to be changed, they're one of the better companies and will actually do it for you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭garyskeepers


    Hey All,.


    Not sure where else to post this. I'm waiting on my meter to be upgraded so i can get a charger installed at the side of the house. In the meantime, I'm stuck charging this with a regular socket.

    My question is this.

    I charge the car (50KWH Peugeot 2008 GT) about twice per week. Usually takes about 10 hours. At a rate of about 30cent per kwh,. This shouldn't see an increase in 400 units per month should it?

    I'm eh……….. mid investigation on why, since I've switched networks from Prepay power to energia, my usage went up by over 400 units (double) in one month, granted I charge the car twice per week instead of once per week last month.

    Sorry if this is not the right area, but charging the electric car is the only difference here



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 981 ✭✭✭n.d.os


    I'm on an Energia 18c night rate 11pm-8am. We charge two EVS (night on, night off) during the night and it works out well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,822 ✭✭✭893bet


    50 kw? Twice a week? 100kw extra every week..4 weeks in a month.. 400kw?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 416 ✭✭garyskeepers


    So a full charge from 0-100% (which is never the case) would that be 50 kw ? I know it's a 50 KWH battery but was never sure how that broke down to an hours charging



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 325 ✭✭D_D


    You can charge at home on a Level 2 AC charger at a rate of 7.4kW. So for a 50kWh battery, that would take approx. 6.5 - 7hrs to charge from 0 to 100%.

    A home plug socket charging at 13A can charge at a rate of about 3kW, so that would take 16 - 17hrs to charge from 0 to 100%.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 955 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    Well it's not to do with how long you charge it's how much electricity you use. If it takes you 10 hrs to charge the 50kwh or it takes you 4 hours it's still the same amount of usage. So your figures are correct,you used 400kwh to charge the car.

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25 kermi2009


    Did it take long before you got the extra discount email? I assume you spotted filling in your details at the bank account info?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,097 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    It took about 2 days, yes I stopped before entering financial details.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,838 ✭✭✭✭JPA


    A kWh is a unit of electricity, the units you see on your bill.

    2x50x4 = 400.

    So it's 100% spot on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 46 irishguy1012


    Hello,

    1. I have smart meter, solar panels and a zappi for the EV
    2. I switched to Home Electric+ Night Boost EV plan (see image below)

    Question: Does electric Ireland treat ALL appliances to be charged at 10.47c during that time or just the EV? The reason I ask is because my smart meter data as displayed on Electric Ireland's website doesn't show the EV.


    Thanks,

    K

    Screenshot 2024-10-09 at 23.20.22.png


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,562 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    all devices. It doesn’t know if you’re charging the car or running the shower.

    Post edited by liamog on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,567 ✭✭✭fafy


    You can get a standing charge of circa €100 less per annum, with Energia smart drive, and a much more flexible 4 hours (versus 2)per night rate of 7.54 inc vat, for more than 1000 kWh night boost units, in a bi monthly period, it increases slightly to 8.67 cent inc vat. Energia day rate is 33.86 inc vat, versus 36.15 with EI

    in addition, Energia pay 24 cent for export, versus 21 with EI.

    Factor all that in, and for most people with solar pv and ev, this will exceed, the €350 welcome credit from EI on this plan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,240 ✭✭✭dinneenp


    This was an extremely good plan if I remember correctly. Unfortunately when I clicked today it said 'no longer available'.

    Are there any other plans that aren't easy to find out there please?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 471 ✭✭the goon


    Hi there, trying to figure out what the best plan is for me using energy pal and as a not so tech savy person, is the below based on the half hourly file I uploaded and so telling me Bord Gais would seem to be cheapest based on my usage? Thanks in advance;

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,139 ✭✭✭✭the_amazing_raisin


    Short answer, yes

    Just be aware that you'll want a full year of smart data for Energypal to be accurate

    "The internet never fails to misremember" - Sebastian Ruiz, aka Frost



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,682 ✭✭✭ECO_Mental


    Yeah if you got that far then you shoudl be ok but as The Raisin said to get the most accurate estimation then you need a years worth of data. For me when I uploaded in actual fact it was the energia Smart plan was the cheapest but by only about €200 but I knew that I could without much effort shift all my EV usage into the 2- 5pm slot. Where as before I was starting to charge my EV at 11pm when the night rate came on. Have a look at some of the tabs the historical import analyis shows a nice heat graph of where your usage is at, you might have to do some more numbers yourself and take an educated guess as which would be the best for you.

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    6.1kWp south facing, South of Cork City



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,136 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    My current energia 1 year smart plan is due to finish in mid December but I'm going to be moving house in Jan/Feb. Is it worth signing up to some other provider and then getting hit with an early contract termination fee? Any other options?



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